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I Watched Ancient Apocalypse So You Don't Have To (Part 3)
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Howdy friends! In this video, we continue our deep dive into the wonderful and imaginative world of Graham Hancock, journalist, sociologist, pseudoscientist, and pyramid enthusiast. In his most recent documentary series on Netflix, Hancock postulates the existence of an ancient lost civilization that dominated the world at the end of the last ice age. Throughout this series I will be taking a balanced look at this claim, weighing each piece of evidence presented, in an attempt to determine whether or not there is sufficient evidence to support this potentially history-altering theory.
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01:22 Lesson 5: Legacy of the Sages
04:08 Gobekli Tepe
09:08 HoW DiD ThEy Do iT oN ThEir FiRsT AtTemPt
12:18 Karahan Tepe
15:14 A "Shared Pool of Knowledge"
18:55 The Vulture Stone
21:24 Gobekli Buried
23:35 A Special Thank You to Ground News
25:40 Lesson 6: Americas Lost Civilization
28:18 Poverty Point
33:50 Serpent Mound
36:35 Ban Hancock
38:52 Archaeological Ethics
41:27 Its Not 12,800 Years Old
44:13 Ice Free Antarctica
43:46 Glacial Geology Lightning Round
46:03 More Folklore
46:48 Credits and Thank Yous
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You’re an atheist, right? I’m assuming so. Which is Gucci, cause I am too
I don't agree with the theme because they look up at the sky if they were a hunter gatherers they would move and they would know where to go because the weather would be warmer down south to navigate so they could get food that they are gathering and follow other animals do the same Like birds migrate other animals migrate their food source would be and once the gained planting crops those same type of constellations and time knowledge would tell them when to plant the crops when to do what to make those crops grow best they would know winter and where to be to eat and to do the things to make food archaeologist could look into cultures they're still hunter gatherers to this day and by the way maybe look at religion just for a little bit of context then you can learn something Believe me just throwing anything as a myth or legend or a just a story if you don't look at it as being true you are going to miss something very important there are a number of Things that you can mix together to make the truth come out and they will line up
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Well, to get a look at Karahan Tepe, you made me watch about 10 minutes of episode 5. But, cool.
My old anthro prof beat it into our heads that our ancestors, no matter how far back, were just as intelligent, just as clever, just as capable as we are, they lacked technology and literacy but not brains.
Every gain that we have made in relation to them has as its counterpoint a loss of us compared to them.
Ok that is true.
Humans have always been clever, ooga booga or not.
@Christian Autajay exactly
I'm so proud of Milo, he went from debunking amateur crackpot conspiracy theorists on TikTok to debunking amateur crackpot conspiracy theorists on Netflix
This guy dont know nothing, graham know way more
@suomi apina You sure there buddy? You barely have a firm grasp on the English language, let alone Archaeology.
@Miami Swacket die meneer komt uit Finland een land met een eigen taal , hoeveel talen spreekt de gemiddelde afstammeling van een Europeaan die om zijn domheid op een boot naar Amerika is getrapt
Until someone proves that the feats could be done without advanced technology I’ll always be skeptical. To me it makes more sense that they used advanced technology like in modern times because we can actually prove that modern technology is capable we can not currently prove that they used primitive technology so if anything that should be the conspiracy. But this 🤡 world seems to work backwards.
It's so weird how hard this show pushes the message that ancient people were advanced enough to form a globe conquering civilization but also not advanced enough to invent buildings.
Yeah but if humans disappear right now how long will our modern buildings last?
As for the places with bad vibes: I am not a superstitious guy and a rock-ribbed agnostic, but when I went into the sacrificial chamber atop the great pyramid of Chitchen Itza, it was uncanny. It was like I could both feel and smell fear and pain and of course blood pressing down against my skin from all directions. I literally ran out of the chamber heaving and retching. I had no strong feelings one way or the other on the sacrificial culture of the Maya before this point and my reaction was a total surprise to me, but damn. It was real. Bad vibes exist.
Yet we know that those chosen to be sacrificed were selected at birth and their lives were lived in luxury and their culture placed no evil or stigma on it. They would be sacrificed and ascend to Maya heaven and were treated as princes or princesses. I suspect our modern feelings are merely that, since there would not have been any fear or loathing or terror in such a place during Mayan times. It would just like a major religious festival in our world today, celebrations, joyous music, dancing, all of that.
@ShizukuSeiji it won't change the fact that dying hurts, like a lot.
@ShizukuSeiji I think people massively overestimate the amount of sacrificing South America had. The mayans did it, for sure, but not on a daily, and like you say, the victims were honoured to an extreme extent. Wealthy families saw it as a privilege. Also hate that it’s used to argue that the South Americans needed “civilising”. The Incans extremely rarely sacrificed anyone, and they were “civilised” by a culture that would continue executing witches for 200 years, and caging mentally ill people for longer
It’s actually really hard to find any mentions of sacrifice in maya culture prior to places like chichen itza and uxmal flourishing in the 10th and 11th centuries (classic maya collapse) and it usually involved the upper 5% of the maya like nobles, military commanders, and kings/lords although this is just a much more oversimplified way of explaining it anyways human sacrifice was really really really rare in maya culture as opposed to central mexico which also only kept human sacrifice reserved specifically for the military and highest nobility
One could also call out empathy towards the victims and a distaste for lethal disembowelment of a fellow human by a human.
You have a limited range of empathy, and it does not really expand beyond your close surroundings.
It is still good that you feel disgust and discomfort, i would dare say. As a proper human of our era should feel?
(Sounds like a judgement of the Mayan era, but for them there were different rules. For us, sacrifices for our religion and the superstitious belief that a life can be traded for life sustenance like rain is... not really an accepted belief system. Anymore.
Several weeks ago I saw an Instagram post talking about a 60,000 year old library in Tibet, complete with stacks of written scrolls. I commented that it was nonsense. I have never had so many replies to a comment on Instagram and most were not friendly. I was called an idiot, a clown, that I've been brainwashed by mainstream historians, and asked if I was aware of the ancient advanced civilisation in Turkey in the Ice Age. Amongst all the vitriol, it was suggested that I needed to educate myself by listening to someone from outside the mainstream lies... Graham Hancock.
Here's your cocktail idea Milo. The "ancient apocalypse" is simply paint thinner with a shot of wood alcohol to help you get through these last few episodes.
The base spirit should be Ancient Age bourbon
Thank you Graham Hancock for getting me interested in ancient human history. Its a fascinating topic, unfortunately I want to know the facts backed by evidence. So here I am learning what we really know, and its been wonderful.
And this comment to me is the attitude one should have towards science and history. Nothing wrong with how you got into it but how you spend the time after is just as important. Hes got interesting ideas but real history has work, and your doing that work, so good on you! 🔥👏
Hear hear friend
Graham Hancock is the Freud of archaeology. People will advance the field just to prove him wrong.
Graham got me interested in ancient history too. Enough so that I took some archaeology courses in college and learned that Graham doesn't really do archaeology. He's more like a Victorian Antiquarian where he just decides something is what he thinks it is without any evidence.
I’ve rewatched this whole series and wait with bated breath for the next episode to drop. The amount of research put into this is amazing, the fact this video is the first one that comes up when someone searches Ancient Apoc is a testament to the interest and hard work put into this.
(But on the off chance you see this minuteman, please don’t feel pressured by viewers to finish sooner, more time means more time for me to dive down research rabbit holes 🙏)
Been checking every day myself for the next part 😭🤣
Or testimony to the fact that he owes Hancock royalties. Because without that name in theses titles... let's face it....
@Blown Gasket nah.
About the cave art, I remember seeing an article recently about a team that showed the "decorative" markings on some of these cave paintings were actually a calendar tracking the animal's reproductive cycles
That's so fascinating makes lost of sense to help hunters back then thanks for sharing.
I have an idea for you: you'd get a lot of views if you did a series of videos called "an introduction to..." or "a cursory review of..." and a subdiscipline of archaeology. Say, for instance "An Introduction to Bioarchaeology" or "An Introduction to Dating Methods" or something like that. Since this sort of videos cover a broad disciplinary category, people that are looking for info on that topic would end up finding your video and would be introduced to the great humour you inject in your content and your channel. That'd grow your subscriber base a lot.
No, keep funny archeology man pure.
@littlesquidgaming so don't educate people unless you're dunking on someone else? I love Milo's content but honestly I'd absolutely love if he just presented archeological sites he's learned about without needing to debunk something or prove someone wrong. It's fun content but in the end pointless, because the people he debunks don't care about being debunked. I absolutely don't want him to stop debunking but it'd be nice to have just a straight up "let's learn together" series to just learn archeology in its purest form without a debate that everyone's already picked sides on.
this episode/part was great! as a kurdish woman from turkey, it makes me really happy to see someone correctly cover one of our megalithic sites :D the only thing that made me cringe (from your side) was the way you pronounced göbekli tepe 😭 i know that's not the important part, but it still made me laugh lol. çok teşekkürler ☺️
I'm Italian and I cringed (cronge? ) too at hearing "g'bekli t'hepe"
If you don't mind me asking, how do you pronounce göbekli tepe?
You probably already know this ( i was raised in Illinois so we learned all about glacial history here) but another potential reason why they built by the foot of where the glacier was is that the glaciers slowly ground down the soil like you said. In doing so, the dirt that it left was older and hugely energy dense, meaning it wouldve been great for farming, plus it already was flattened out and wouldve easy to navigate and till. Combine great farmland right next to a hill, and both of those are hugely happy for humans to live
So it's absurd anyone could just wake up and decide to build Gobekli Tepe, but Hancock's entire premise is that someone from Atlantis woke up and decided to build Gobekli Tepe.
Then they also travelled the planet teaching others to build in different styles everywhere they landed.
I built that shit, hell I got the deed. It’s 15 years old at best.
@Eyes Open Different architecture majors going around spreading their style without telling anoyne, because everyone elses sucks and their way of building stuff is correct. That's obviously what happened, people just wanting to prove themselves so they spent time in poorer places and built their designs with a really cheap workforce. The black pyramid was obviously built by a dropout.
Jokes aside, it really is pointless to try to make believers of these theories realise their mistakes. If stuff this obvious can be ignored, how does any argument matter? No one will listen to it anyway, except people that already realised how dumb the theories are.
Talking about the cave paintings - I've been to Lascaux. The very rare depiction of a human hunter, so tiny and stick like in comparison to the other animals - and also the carved lion, a hidden predator only seen from certain angles - it is so cool, and I think like a lesson on survival and "worship". But you reminded me of it, I hadn't thought about it in years.
Yo wtf, you showed an image of some of the art work at gobekli tepe and out loud i was like "man thats fuckin cool". To be literally followed by you sayin the same thing, blew my mind. I am also an archaeologist and I am finishing my degree in it as well. I am very glad to see other individuals having the same enthusiasm for material culture as I do. I also am learnin latin and ancient greek so if yall want tattoos translated hit me up.
Your both same then lol
I get it now
Archeologists are a hive mind and graham tries to fight you all
@Федоровский Д.А. см5-42б Haha yeah we have all been indoctrinated into the field by a crazy archaeology teacher
@Федоровский Д.А. см5-42б I doubt that hive mind is the term that would be used by anyone that has atttended multiple archaeology conferences and have seen the arguments. Now the notion of a multitude of drone bees operating mindlessly under thrall to a Queen Bee in a hive puts me in mind of the relationship between Hancock and his fans.
I wonder why it is so hard for people to accept that older peoples could stack rocks good. Baffles me to no end.
Try to lift one. 😂
the longer i wait for the next episode of this series, the closer i am to having to watch ancient apocalypse
Karahan Tepe's TV debut being on Ancient Apocalypse is hella depressing. That would be like if our first photos of a black hole were revealed on an episode of Ancient Aliens.
Nice analogy. Unfortunately.
Even more depressing is that the Hancock fans will only take away from the series that science is lying about history.
I actually grew up in Southern Ohio, took many field trips to Serpants Mound. It's not just a cultural heritage site; it's also a cemetery, there are burial mounds right next to it. When we were kids we were heavily chastised for wanting run and play up the little hills... cause they were actually graves. If the Ohio state park coordinator didn't feel comfortable turning a Native American burial ground into a film set for a conspiracy show, I certainly don't blame them...
Quite an important piece of context in regards to the history of the mound. No one wants a cemetery where your ancestors and/or loved ones rest turn into a documentary location.
Doesn't Octagon Mound have a golf course on it? Incredible.
I respect however anyone wishes to honor their dead, but I actually think it would be really cool to turn graveyards into places where it's socially acceptable to chill and have lunch or whatever. I see graveyards as a receptacle of love. It's just a big field full of rotting meat and bones in theory, but in practice its the place where you show your loved ones how much you care. That you don't want the world to forget how great they were. A place for friends and family to gather and remember their life. I find a great sense of peace there and would love to see people bringing flowers and a picnic basket and then playing frisbee.
Just as a response to you playing on the hills as a kid. Seems to me dead people would not want the land they were laid to rest in be just off limits to all of humanity
@Skeets McGrew i agree, my father is buried in a very lovely place by the river and i love to go there for picnic lunch and have a nice time.
@Skeets McGrew Didn't the Victorians used to do this? Cemeteries are nice places full of nature.
A theory I have about cave art is that the reason we most often see animals that they hunted is because the artists simply had easiest access to these animals to look at. Imagine you’re an artist living in hunter gatherer time and your buddies come back with a bull, and they lay it out to clean up to prepare it. That’s an artists time to accurately sketch it and practice so you can do your cool wall art later. This is coming from a professional artists perspective. That’s what I would do. And although these cave pieces tell the story of a whole people from that time, the art also tells a very specific story of the individuals who made those pieces. Cause think about it, in your community there are individuals who make a large majority of the art because it’s their hobby or their calling. So cave paintings in a single location very well could have all been made by just a small handful of individuals. And if we go down that path, what is that individual thinking while also taking into account the wants and influence of the community on that artist. So fun to think about!
I just came across your channel and apparently lost the entire day to it because it’s dark now and I’ve gone through an unhealthy amount of your videos. You have such an incredible way of explaining things!
The most ironic thing is that every project, of any kind, started by someone waking up one morning thinking "geez, you know what would look good on this hill?".
Obviously, that's not the end of the story, from that moment to the moment at which point the project is completed there will be many more steps that you can imagine, but basically, yes, every project comes out of the blue and then other people convert to it and then it is done, or not.
Could literally have been a "king" who woke one day, confronted with his own mortality, and wanted something that people would remind him for.
THAT HAPPENED THOUSANDS OF TIMES THROUGHOUT HISTORY!
"The most ironic thing is that every project, of any kind, started by someone waking up one morning thinking "geez, you know what would look good on this hill?"."
Simply not true.
@ShizukuSeiji it is
“Why would the ancients given a single shxt about us?” actually says a lot and is worth more than a chuckle
I would love to see you do a video or series on the "Curse of Oak Island" show and the (actual) history there.
As an indigenous person, thank you for acknowledging serpent mounds importance!! The mounds of our people across the USA have been desecrated so much over the years that what little we have left is to be protected and treasured. It is a religious place that brings spiritual peace to so many ppl, myself included.
There's no "our people", indigenous people in America where far from united enough for you to consider them "our people"
@Jon cmon bruh
@Jon Yeah, there were tons of nations, but a lot them got put together in reservations, so I think the waters got sort of muddied in distinguishing individual groups. That also gives them a sense of unity if they're all being conquested against.
@Jon they are united, in part, by the common oppression and colonization by european colonizers.
Another amazing debunk video by young Will Turner.
Damn i felt like an jackass after watching the first part, Hancock has a way into convincing you without anything presented.
Thanks again Milo😅, looking forward for the next part! Good job
Damn, very unique in educational UAclips content to actually cite and use credible scientific sources, keep it up
"Allowing you to be wrong on the other side of a fence."
The best line, made me cackle.
“The only thing that permission would have given you is just allowing you to be wrong on the other side of a fence.”
As a person living in Turkey, I would like to thank you for your efforts! We never forget the aid we get.
We’re Praying for you, family, friends, and of course for your Country
The earthquake was very traumatic for Turkey. It unearthed many Armenian graves.
I wish you, yours, and the peoples of your country well.
I’ve been to serpent mound multiple times, considering I live in Ohio, and in the multiple times I’ve visited there never have I thought, “woooooooow this must have been made for aliens.” I’m a avid alien / greater being believer, but even as a kid visiting that site it was easy to understand how and why it came about. If you live in Ohio, I highly suggest you visit serpent mound. It’s beautiful.
Man I missed some stuff
Graham never once said anything about aliens y’all are institutionalized.
I smoked a fatty on serpent mound
Okay sorry for all the comments, but I absolutely love the fact that right around the time the Serpent Mound was being rebuilt, my country was being invaded by William the Conqueror. That is SO cool!
"You don't just wake up an build this"
I've made random symbols out of accorn duff while foraging for accorns, so all it takes to make art is something you can work with, and a lot of time. I think our ancestors had a little bit of that
"theres an apocalypse so we need to warn people in the future. how should we do it?"
"burry some random building underground with no real indication on how to find it and also with no specific description of what the apocalypse was/will be"
Being Turkish, I really heavily appreciate your commitment to helping earthquake victims in smaller villages and townships. Those people were forgotten, both by the state and NGOs.
Beyond that, Göbekli Tepe is one of the proudest elements of my country. Its preservation is paramount to archeology and the commitment Turks make to preserve it actively fills me with pride.
oh how I wish for erdogan to lose and a decent government taking charge
& Syria? Is anything getting through?
Hope you & all get by, & make it back to "normal" +/- . :)
@MichaelMike The Russian Bot Syria wasn't hit as bad. It's more complicated to provide them support considering how the country is an active warzone.
@TheVideoIsTheKing , yeah I saw Israel publicly threatened to blow up any aid going there. Didn't know if anybody was taking the risk, & doing it anyway. What also made me ask was that there are a lot of people & organizations here (US) requesting donations to help "Syria & Turkey", then later in the video or ad, there's qualifications, or outright statements, that they likely can't help Syrians.
[Bill Wurtz voice] Turkey gets a brand new Turkey! 🎵
I know these take a ton of work and we are all appreciative. Are we getting another episode of this series?
In my Intro Archeology class, my prof wasn't gonna have ANY of that Atlantis nonsense from the freshman. She brought up a picture of the Island of Santorini, pointed, explained the volcanic eruption and subsequent sinking of half the island, and finished with "there. There is atlantis. Don't bring it up again."
Bro, you're awesome. I love all your content. You are a hell of a teacher with a great sense of humor. Keep rocking it, man! Got me laughing enough to have to rewind it=P
We need part 4 out here already
Has he said why he’s been absent recently?
The multidisciplinary nature of archaeology is what has really struck me about your videos. You're probably the biggest thing to happen to archaeology since Indiana Jones (from a getting young folks interested point of view). Incredible work, keep it up.
“A fist full of rings and a head full of geology” is a priceless line. Thanks for the show, Milo.
Me when my brain hurts but I dress up in a shit ton of sparkling jewelry to feel better,
"a head full of fists and rings full of geology"
Came to the comments just for this line 😅
I would absolutely ADOREEE it if you could do videos on archeology in the Mediterranean, i'm just starting to learn more bout it and it's super fascinating.
Although I understand where you're coming from and really happy you are clearing things up so I can understand the problems that arise from Hancock's points, I am also really grateful to Graham Hancock for inspiring me and intriguing me, as I first heard of a lot of locations such as Gobekli Tepe due to his content. I can understand why he may be very frustrating to archeologists but I think he has also opened up archeology to a wider audience (his ideas might not be factual but even the fact that Plato was the first person to mention Atlantis is in itself and interesting thing and something I found out from him). To an average person who isn't ever going to be able to go on archeological digs or study this on a professional level I'm really grateful I came across his content and now because of him have come across yours. Thank you for the content :)
Really enjoying these videos.
I very much enjoyed listening to JRE episodes with Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson as well. Epecially Carlson, who's got in his bag loads of very interesting geology stuff to show. Yeah all this is on the level of very cool "stuff" for me, as a math grad who's just stumbled upon some podcasts. Which gives your videos superextragreat education value. Love it.
I'm glad he exists, I'm glad you exist. Otherwise I wouldn't get to know about any of this. :) Hope there's more debunkings and debates and publicity, and funds, and lots more digging!
And bless you and everyone for the donations. I live in İstanbul. Didn't lose anyone close to me, but I know people who did. Honestly everyone here knows someone who did. It's insane how many people.. Every dollar eases someone's struggle.
I am sad I cannot go but I am so excited for you. Maybe in the future I can help out. I would love to come help apply psychology to it all. Milo, I check daily for new content. Your outlook has been so very refreshing and honestly it gives me hope. I would love to hear your takes on other topics, honestly. Remember the debunking part is research based and does not actually have to be in your field.... though I can appreciate your sticking to what you know the best. Overall, I just wanted to say thank you (to you and your team)
Woooah, how has it been so many days since the release and I'm only bumping into it today?!? I love ur work, Milo!! Maybe posting it in a weekend would have hit the viewcount stronger. But that's just a suggestion based on nothing, cause I'm sure the video (and the amazing series) is doing great. Really, I'll be always coming back.
Milo is like that one substitute teacher who just rocks up one day to fill in for a teacher in a totally unrelated class, tells you some wild ass facts about ancient history or whatever and then you only ever see him in the hallways or in other classrooms after that one lesson
manic pixie teacher
He's probably also the cool subsistute that lets you listen to music or do something fun in your free time
Made u learn? Bad sub
@Wesley Robert Made you learn? Never! Made you *want* to learn? Yes, because what he was talking about was interesting.
Is there gonna be a part 4? You got me hooked on your videos and I require that sweet endorphin rush when I watch a new one. Until then I will rematch your previous vids to help boost your sweet sweet watch time.
The main reason I watched the Netflix series was for the episode on the ancient American mounds.
And the thread Graham plucks that resonated with me is academia’s coverup of the level of development of the ancient American inhabitants to promote manifest destiny and the westward expansion.
There were reasons there that weren’t strictly academic.
Love your comments about the constellations because I've always experienced the same. Also, when I look for the big and little dippers, I see several more dippers, not just two. I can use the north start and such to determine which is the one, but I still see many dippers here and there.
Graham reminds me of what my father always said. " Numbers don't lie but liars use numbers ". He makes unproven claims and picks out anything to validate his claim. It's one of the oldest scams known.
uh he doesn't. He has worked with scientists and geologists ... But also.. a lot of people refuse to even look for more evidence...
@Out of the Forest care to elaborate
@Out of the Forest please elaborate
I know this is a late comment, but one of the things impressed on me by my archaeology professors and the guests we have is that there are probably many sites in Turkey that show very ancient things and even less ancient things, it's just the Turkish government in often very difficult to deal with.
There was a guest lecturer who talked about how he was pretty certain of the site of the Mittanni Empire's capital based on satellite imagery the US had done in the 70s, but that the hoops to go through had discouraged him to the point he mostly seemed to be hoping someone else would do it.
Satellite imagery is one of the coolest things of archaeology for me.Seeing remains of Roman outposts dotted throughout Syria showed the potential of finding sites hidden that we otherwise would only stumble upon by chance.
I just love 12:10. I've discovered your channel recently and idk how you did it, but I'm watching part 3 of this series in one sitting and i really only now realized how far up my guts you've went
Hancock: "Archeologists can't ever admit they were wrong or change their minds!"
Archeologists: "We thought only agricultural societies made megalithic structures, but then we found Göbekli Tepe so that changed our minds."
Hancock: "Noooooooo it was a secret civilization of psychic farmers."
What I really want to know is if it's not possible to invent a mound on your own, who taught the Atlanteans how to make mounds? Who taught the people who taught them? Is there some guy who stole the secret of dirt from Mt. Olympus?
loved this series... rationality in a deeply irrational world... thank you.
Love this video, but I heavily suggest you look into the lore of the major constellations as actually many historical groups do share extremely similar ideas of what each constellation looks like. In fact, the Lascaux aurochs may be Taurus surrounded by the Pleiades. Overly Sarcastic Productions does a really good summary on the history of the Zodiac and many other constellations just as a start up, but some of the stories are incredibly persistent through many ages and it's really fascinating how deep that folklore goes. (but obviously just because ancient humans shared stories and they can be similar obviously doesn't mean freaking Atlantians came and did this, more so it's fascinating how information bleeds even in times before modern mass communication technologies).
I haven't personally seen anything about Gobeckli Tepe potentially being a star map, so they may have gone their complete own direction here, but also just cause ancient people could also see THE SKY doesn't mean "oh no warning!! we ancient people only thought about the night sky because space cataclysm, don't space cataclysm in the future"
There is no Way. Cultures living right next to each other have vastly different names and meaning for same thing. But somehow distant cultures all got the Same Constellation which is possibly the one of the most abstract pieces of knowledge from ancient world? Your kidding right?
And on top of that all these cultures have different levels of knowledge in different areas. Which makes Zero sense if A single culture influenced them all. Some never discovered writing but understand the idea of 0.
Simply put it is a TERRIBLE hypothesis. Modify it to be only American. Only European. Then you maybe you get closer to something that might be true. But probably not. There are constellations of animals that don't exist in America. Doesn't make sense.
@Andrew Sprague Uh, what? No one is arguing that cultures from completely different areas have the same idea on these constellations (except Hancock who we're not defending, in fact, Aislinn says Hancock's theory is wrong), but as far as I'm reading it Aislinn is just arguing with Milo's statement that all constellations are bullshit. In the case of Scorpio, we get that from the Greek Constellations and that's right next to Turkey and scorpions are a danger in both countries. The same is true into the Middle East, into India, into China. Not that I'm saying that the gobekli tepe picture is of Scorpio. I honestly don't think it is.
I do think, however, that Milo's dismissal of constellations is a mistake. Constellations are a product of the human tendency towards pattern recognition. Examining what various civilizations saw in the sky with their pattern recognition can tell us a lot about what was in their environment, was part of their life, was what they were thinking about. It also can tell us about what their capacity for travel and planning was. In a pre cartographic, pre gps world, the better a culture knew the sky, the better their navigation and timekeeping skills. Constellations are not only pattern recognition but mnemonic devices. Even if it's a bad picture, it helps you remember that grouping of stars that you need to recognize to know the time of night, time of year, or to find your way home.
Milo would be the greatest college professor of all time😂 I would have killed to have a professor like him when I went to college.
I am actually going to see Graham and Randall at the Cosmic Summit in June. I’m hoping he has a Q & A, because I plan on raising discussion based on some of the topics you touched on in your UAclips series. I’d like to hear what his response will be.
I would highly recommend against that unless you are actually an archaeologist or a geologist. You can raise the argument, but cannot really substantiate it with actual science and knowledge. He will just drag you down to his pit of conspiracies and idiocy and will defeat you with his superior akills in that area
if Randall fields the question, it will be informative for everyone present.
Thank you again for putting the work in! The scene of Serpent Mound with the two people standing in front of the tail, those people are Chiefs Glenna Wallace and Ben Barnes of The Eastern Shawnee and Shawnee tribes of Oklahoma. As a descendant myself I thank you for mentioning that the indigenous people associated with these sites are still alive today and still hold a sacred connection to what the Ancestors have left behind! Greatly appreciated! Niyawe!
What does Niyawe mean please? Just an English chap interested in learning thanks.
@Daz Ordaz I thank you. Niyawe ki wasi lepwa is a common greeting it means thank you for being well
I finde it wonderful that he got the netflix Show. He is a good example why pseudo science pays
I remember listening to people like Hancock going on about an advanced civilization and that if you look at the pyramids they hit a peak and then the technology gets worse over time. This intrigued me for some time until I read about the Bronze Age collapse that happened after the building of the Great Pyramids then it made perfect sense. The Egyptians and everyone else had a SHTF moment knocking them back on their heels. Another fun one to study are the North American Mound Builders. These mounds are all over the Eastern USA.
Hey Milo I have been loving the channel. Watching you rip GH and others to shreds is my guilty pleasure. I'm curious if you've ever come across the show "Oak Island" what are your thoughts on it? To my untrained mind it appears as if they put a good bit of effort and science into their discovers (some of which are genuinely interesting, and usually dug up by archaeologists) but also throw out fluff and wild speculation like Templar to keep the attention of those seek sensational discovery. At least they have never claimed aliens or atlantians hid a treasure ;)
Coming back to these video's, I forgot how sarcastic you are and I love it. I'm laughing so much that my sides hurt
As a resident living on the Bellefontaine Outlier, I would love a video explaining it. I understand some of it but not enough to fully explain it. Also as a resident it is pronounced Bell fountain. Great work, can't wait for next video.
The "how did they lift them" thing always cracks me up, because they never actually speculate on it. They never go into any detail with, say, examples of the possibilities (such as the myriad we know of they could have used to lift these stones. Like the Egyptians. They were big on record keeping.) like you did. They just leave it up to your imagination, because aliens. It's something I noticed a couple years back and it sticks out like a sore thumb to me, now.
I can only imagine how disappointed and confused Archimedes would be if he were around today.
By presenting a "problem" and then not offering a solution, they're implying that the problem is insurmountable by any reasonable means
No one ever asks how they lifted stones for old temples, castles, and buildings generally. Apparently it was just the pyramids the aliens did.
@Alex P They totally ask that about old temples, castles, and buildings. They just never ask about european ones that aren't stone henge.
34:15 I'm from ohio and saw serpent mound when i was like 10, one of the things that really made me fascinated by archaeology ... and I bought an ashtray at the souvenir store because it was the only "snake" thing there and I didn't know what an ashtray was haha
Sophisticated yet entertaining. Thanks for your grwat work! Happy to support your fundraiser 👍
I just discovered this channel and I've subscribed! I am LOVING this breakdown. I was initially fascinated and inspired when I heard Graham Hancock talk about his theories on podcasts, but it wasn't until I tried to watch his Netflix show that I was able to see all the many holes in his logic and I grew suspicious of him. NOW I'm watching your video and I've become flat out angry at Hancock.
My man, this one of the best channels on youtube. Please never stop making videos like this, they are as invaluable to general awareness to archeology (and science in general) as they are amusing.
It’s so wild that it works when a professional UAclipsr tells me to subscribe. I’ve watched the first 2 episodes as they came out and for some reason it was only on this video in the beginning did I actually hit subscribe. Sorry Milo, you’re great!
So, when I first saw the vulture stone my first thought was "Oh hey, that's a Chozo!", proving *beyond a shadow of a doubt* that ancient mesopotamiens were trying to tell us that Metroid games rock.
Dang that's incredible! When are you getting your Netflix deal?
That seems a perfectly reasonable hypothesis and holds together better then a lot of ancient apocalypse. My only question is are you thinking that both the ancients and the creators of metroid were visited by the same aliens or a secret cult that passed the knowledge down until video games could be made?
I accept this hypothesis as fact because it is too cool not to be 100% true.
they were so eager tell future people what happened and what will happen. like we do, tell people in 5tsd years our lifes.
Samus Aran sacrificed everything but her arm cannon to carve that relief
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I could see the holes in his arguments but didn't know how to fill it with the correct information. This is great work! Thank you!
I am a huge fan of post-roman empire historyand never really got into the truly ancient world. This series has changed that. You explain things so well and it's amazing how well-researched your videos are
How did ancient people's make stone carvings of the things that destroyed them... after they were destroyed? Did they just see a meteor falling and go "oh gee I better warn the people 10 thousand years from now, let me get my chisel and sandstone"
And then to warn us they buried it. WTF is that about?
This was my point the entire time watching the documentary on Netflix, how are these people warning us about something they died of? It makes no sense, then again, neither does Graham Hancock lmao
"Nothing you do today is done with the intent that people 12,000 years from now discovering it being able to learn from it"
Me, a full time historian blacksmith, specializing in preservation and reconstruction work, the motto of my workplace literally being "so that the future may learn from the past": *sweating profusely*
Waiting for part 4 eagerly! 🙌
You see, I don't mean to stress you out but I've watched all three parts about 5 times, listen to them when I fall asleep and check your channel for the 4th part multiple times a day. So, if you don't mind I would love for you to give me that sweet relief finally 😬 ... Look after yourself n stuff... But also hurry. Ya know 🤓❤️
Part 4 is almost finished 👀
@GianB thanks, I saw it too 😍 I was kinda worried that something bad happened in his real life and was thinking to delete the comment in case it would be rude 😂 no, I'm not over thinking everything 🤓
@Lucy Haha I think it was more of an editor problem, but the important thing is that it's coming 😄
Gotta rewatch the series to refresh haha
@GianB totally! That will be about the 10th time I watched it then 😁
I love how you're an exception to Brandolini's Law with this series "When someone posts false or misleading information online, the effort to refute it is generally an order of magnitude larger than to produce it." But you're essentially box-of-scraps-in-a-cave-ing this dude with a netflix deal and according budget (not that you're not putting a ton of effort it, you obviously are)
😂 😂 😂 Aint that the truth, at home archeology with more evidence and understanding than a hundreds of thousands of dollara produced netflix "documentary"
I do not believe Milo is an exception to Brandolini's Law I believe with this series he is showing evidence for it. I am pretty sure it is taking a lot more effort to refute GH than it is for GH to spill his misinformation. Perhaps you should have started your post with "I love how you're showing compelling evidence for Brandolini's Law with this series". I think I knew where you were coming from, but I wasn't quite sure.
I didn’t know that there was a named law to describe this problem. Handy!
Uhh it seems like he's putting a great deal of effort into this series but ok
oh no! somehow i convinced myself this was a four part series, i've been waiting for part 4 😩
It is a four part series
I want this guy to react to history of the entire world I guess if he hasn’t watched it yet
10:08 as a kid who had rather outlandish and feverish ideas often as soon as i woke uo in the morning, i find that a strong possibility! /hj
the fact that i had these ideas early in the morning led to me once damaging nerves in my finger (it doesnt bend right today) by cutting a lid of a large canister. i was trying to make a rain water collection system out of scraps in the house. i was using an exacto knife with no adult guidance...
Wow, just wow, man you must have the patience of a saint. How in the world you got through all this pseudo horse shit is beyond me. It almost gave me an aneurism listening to this hokum. I have no idea how you wrote the script for this content. Anyway keep up the great content. It’s really interesting.
Will there be a part 4? I've been waiting for 2 weeks now.
my favorite thing about the "ancient peoples left cryptic signs warning us about the end of the world" is that when we try to warn our distant hypothetical decendants about dangerous things we make it as obvious as possible, we put up a literal sign that says "dont go anywhere near this it will kill you." we even thought of putting massive terrifying spikes around the dangerous stuff we've made so people dont go anywhere near it. so why the hell would the ancients make it a puzzle????
We're still trying to figure out a comprehensible warning that would be understood even if civilization collapsed completely. But yes, ancient peoples made riddles out of their warnings because reasons. Riddles and puzzles get lost in translation a lot faster than *Danger: Keep Out* signs.
Obviously our distant ancestors were a bit too much into the legend of Zelda.
"Boil the water, idjits! -love, Ancients", would be a good one too.
I'd be interested to see what you would have to say about Ben from EnchartedX and his research on technology used to build the megalithic structures on the Giza plateau.
I'm just hoping Miniminuteman is okay. He had this kick ass series going and on fire. Now he's just poofed for 12 days.
Hancock's goons have stolen his chalk
@William Chamberlain No....... not the the chalk
I love this so much! Please don't change into a cold, calculating youtube machine.
Hancock and Sweatman have a massive oversight to think that the stars haven't moved in thousands of years
I really do have to get myself a pith helmet just so then I can wear it to feel a oneness with my inner archaeologist when I watch your videos because there ain't no way I can pull of a fedora without looking like I've never left my mother's basement
Graham's view of ancient history is EXTREMELY similar to the lore of Assassin's Creed. In AC lore, the Isu were an advanced race of beings that were wiped out by the "Toba Catastrophe" which, according to AC lore, was a massive solar flare that fried the surface of the planet. The Isu foresaw the Toba Catastrophe but could not stop it and also foresaw another event that would happen in the far future, so they left clues at multiple sites across the world to warn future humans.
But at least in AC, the clues left behind were more like a last ditch effort with no time for make it more reliable after everything failed and of course they were HYPER ADVANCED so they could put that off with reasonable effort.
@Ricardo Miles and they left behind more substantial relics than piles of rocks that people of the time could easily build without any magical reason to.
This ancient aliens/lost civilisation stuff inspired a lot of franchise lore. In _Battlestar Galactica_ humans are a lost colony, _Stargate_ of course, _Prometheus_ and _Alien: Covenant, Predators_ built pyramids all over the world to hunt Xenomorphs, ancient aliens called the Progenitors created all humanoid lifeforms in _Star Trek_ (it's why everyone can have offspring with eachother), _Doctor Who_ plays around with it in several episodes (Atlantis, Silurians), etc.
If it's taken for what it is, fiction, then it can be pretty entertaining imho.
I'm so happy that I stopped playing AC
@Klister Klister I traded in Valhalla I was so disappointed in it.
dude i am so excited for the next video but this video is still getting massive traction! great work and thank you!!
Yes, Göbekli Tepe is buried. "There's a lot of hills around, why did you report this?" When I asked him, the owner of the field on which Göbeklitepe was, said to me, "We knew something was up because it was a stuffed hill anyway. The biggest stone was the size of a fist."
Hi Milo! Keep up the good work! You are awesome!
Serpent Mound! Also, while I would very much love to hear you talk about the Bellefontaine outlier; I should warn you that if you make it the focus of an episode, the Ohioans will show up in the comments just to let you know we pronounce it bell fountain.
A Request: I have watched and enjoyed your great debunking videos. I have a great one you could have fun with. I live in Tucson and I recently came across the story of the Silverbell Artifacts which were "discovered" in 1924 in Tuscon. To this date, no one can say if they are real or not. I think it shows the mayhem which can ensue when a bunch of amateurs who wanted to play archeologists got involved in a hoax, or was it a hoax. A lot of real archeologists as well as geologists confirmed the ancient date of the artifacts. Today, the relics exist in the Tucson Historical Museum. It would be a good object lesson in what it takes to confirm artifacts as true, and to tell amateurs what sort of harm they can bring to scientific inquiry. Please add it to your possible future videos. -Ed Bertschy
Graham Hancock is the reason critical thinking needs to be taught in schools again
I would think that would be covid and what's going on in governments world wide last 5 years
I mean, it is taught, but like most people who sleep through English, History, etc... They also sleep through anything to do with critical thinking.
@sadhu That's very vague, can you elaborate on what you mean by that?
I’m out here more excited for part 4 than the next episode of mando
19:57 damn it. I didn't even notice until now that putting chapters/sections in your videos is something new (and I love it btw, thank you), but I don't recall the Dandera Zodiac that well and now I'm not finding the part in which you talk about it on the other video 😢😢