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The Continued Decline of Overwatch 2

  • Опубліковано 27 тра 2023
  • Blizzard just announced an update to the highly anticipated PVE mode of Overwatch 2!! It's cancelled... Completely scrapped. Yet another example of the continued decline of Blizzard and Overwatch 2. Very sad to see.
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  • The Act Man
    The Act Man  4 місяці тому +9426

    I just want to stop complaining about Blizzard, man...

    • YouTube Worm
      YouTube Worm 4 місяці тому +79

      Hi mact man

    • Lazar Kalinic
      Lazar Kalinic 4 місяці тому +33

      I love your content man, keep up the good work

    • HotJava0191
      HotJava0191 4 місяці тому +66

      They have bamboozled us 😢

    • Mojavekight17
      Mojavekight17 4 місяці тому +17

      Please do

      UGF PANDAS 4 місяці тому +3


  • Evanz111
    Evanz111 4 місяці тому +8605

    I never thought I’d see the day where “getting rid of loot boxes” was a way of a company being even more predatory and exploitative.

    • Matrx Zeno
      Matrx Zeno 4 місяці тому +436

      In hindsight, lootboxes were alright.

    • Warlynx 56
      Warlynx 56 4 місяці тому +789

      @Matrx Zeno RNGesus is bad, but predatory microtransactions are far worse

    • John F Kennedy In an open top car
      John F Kennedy In an open top car 4 місяці тому +104

      They were bad

    • Evanz111
      Evanz111 4 місяці тому +369

      @John F Kennedy In an open top car They were bad, but they at least gave everyone a chance at getting the thing they want. Versus their new system where they use FOMO to get skins in the battle pass, else you have to wait for it to appear in the store and then pay $15-$20 for it. No other way of getting them, no challenges, no loot boxes, no battle pass once they’ve expired.

  • Arminhammer
    Arminhammer 4 місяці тому +766

    Miss the days when gaming was niche and devs actually had a passion for their work and wanted to give a game people would love

    • BlanKetMoBbyPanTs
      BlanKetMoBbyPanTs 4 місяці тому +13

      The good old days

    • Raven Whiteduck
      Raven Whiteduck 4 місяці тому +12

      This is why I play older games or niche games

    • Khánh Bảo Đoàn
      Khánh Bảo Đoàn 3 місяці тому +65

      @BlanKetMoBbyPanTs In my humble opinion, the "good old days" is just today. Devs like that are around, just not talked about for 3 months in a row by hundreds of UAclipsrs.
      When an indie masterpiece came out, 10 guys made videos about how they're masterpieces and the algorithm forgets about them.

    • Krysnha
      Krysnha 3 місяці тому +2

      Miss them so much, but that wont come back

  • Lunkastry
    Lunkastry Місяць тому +286

    13:37 His prediction was pretty much spot on. Just forgot to mention that there are only 3 mission per season and each bundle of missions cost 15 dollars.

    • LosKalmaros
      LosKalmaros Місяць тому +4

      It's very very funny! We don't get new missions in a year, and this 3 missions - all we have

    • TheZeldaCinema
      TheZeldaCinema Місяць тому +25

      Came here to say this. He is exactly right, but what he didn't predict was that Blizzard would succumb even more to their savage greed and charge absurd amounts of money for people to play extremely underwhelming missions. God this company's death cannot come soon enough

    • JunoMoon
      JunoMoon Місяць тому +6

      15 Dollars?????
      That's a bit much.

    • Silviu Visan
      Silviu Visan 27 днів тому +1

      Vote with ur money

  • Big Whisky
    Big Whisky 4 місяці тому +594

    Here's an interesting take. They marketed a PvE game mode and made a few clips to show "gameplay" to generate hype and entice people to buy the game, but Blizzard had no intention of ever releasing a real PvE mode.

    • NN&N
      NN&N 4 місяці тому +115

      I'm fairly sure "cancelling" a PvE mode they never planned on finishing was management's plan from the start. Whether the devs were in on this plan I have no clue, but Blizzard as a company I feel almost certainly lied about creating a PvE mode when the entire move to OW2 was just a way to dodge gambling laws about loot boxes and exchange it for an even more aggressive monetization model.

    • Axel Harlem
      Axel Harlem 4 місяці тому +4


    • Joze1685
      Joze1685 3 місяці тому +8

      But you don't buy the game, it's free to play. I guess you could make a similar argument that it convinced people to download the game, and Blizzard hopes once they're playing they'll start spending.

    • quizr
      quizr 3 місяці тому +3

      @NN&N That would COST blizzard millions.
      They more than likely had 100% intentions of releasing a PvE mode.
      What they realised is they were only going to make 5000% profit instead of 50,000% profit. Realistically not many people actually cared for OW2 PvE. Only the realest blizzard cucks were keen for it.
      I can't see it being the flagship, market moving product that it was meant to be. It would have been hype for 2 weeks and promptly forgotten about by the wider gaming market and Blizz can see that. They arent retards.
      What has more staying power, a pretty boring PvE experience or a multiplayer live service game. Blizz know the answer and they shipped accordingly.
      Thats just my take.. But in no world or reality would they drop time, money and resources into developing a mode that the higher ups are secretly planning on axing at the last second. Thats not even feasible. Nor is it a coherent decision for a company that functions on maximized profit margins.

    • Ice Cold Politics
      Ice Cold Politics 3 місяці тому +9

      @Joze1685bro they literally just announced they were monetizing the story missions. This company is bankrupt morally and they are only profit motivated by this point.

  • AriannaTokki Animations
    AriannaTokki Animations 4 місяці тому +316

    I think this is why indie developers thrive more than AAA games, because people who work with these companies have to listen to people who don't care about the creativity part as long as it's making money and ALSO have to listen to so many restrictions that have become the killing point of these games that could be so much more than they are. So many companies and basically anything have fallen into the hole of "we need to be the richest the world has ever seen" and it's so saddening.

    • 李재성
      李재성 3 місяці тому +2

      Capcom: Hold my beer

    • AriannaTokki Animations
      AriannaTokki Animations 3 місяці тому +7

      @李재성 lol mainly in the American side at least, I don't know about other countries

    • 李재성
      李재성 3 місяці тому +1

      @AriannaTokki Animations
      Have you seen Capcom’s latest wins? Especially with Street Fighter 6? I’d like to think that Capcom is in the middle of their renaissance.

    • quizr
      quizr 3 місяці тому +1

      @李재성 Yea they actually doing alright atm. SF6 is kind of expensive but from what ive seen its actually a good game.

    • 李재성
      李재성 3 місяці тому

      Critical acclaim too

  • marvin gutierrez
    marvin gutierrez 4 місяці тому +50

    Man, I remember when Blizzard used to be the company that wouldn't release a game "until it was ready." I've known they've been gone for awhile but this certainly affirms everything my heart didn't want to accept.
    Also. I cannot believe these execs could get on a live stream and with a straight face talk about their shifting values and pretend it was all according to plan.
    RIP Blizzard 😢

  • Mojave
    Mojave 4 місяці тому +3578

    I loved the part when Ashe said “Bob do something!” And then Bobby Kotick scrapped PvE

    • Halinaqi 2
      Halinaqi 2 4 місяці тому +330

      Goddammit, this one hurts

    • The Act Man
      The Act Man  4 місяці тому +557


    • Will Wunsche
      Will Wunsche 4 місяці тому +75

      Hahahaha 🤣 that almost makes the scrapped PvE hurt less

    • Xaine
      Xaine 4 місяці тому +8


    • Yawrl
      Yawrl 4 місяці тому +8


  • IMonocleMan
    IMonocleMan 4 місяці тому +151

    9:40 you could see the pain in his face when the poor guy had to tell the world that all these great features that he himself loved had to be cut from the game because of the greedy higher-ups

    • CGKase
      CGKase 3 місяці тому +9

      He looked so tired.

    • AzureRoxe
      AzureRoxe 2 місяці тому +1

      He lied for almost a year about the PvE.

    • Tinhco
      Tinhco Місяць тому +9

      @AzureRoxe You do realize they have to (if they want to keep working on the thing they love / keep their fucking job).

  • MightyManotaur22
    MightyManotaur22 3 місяці тому +41

    I work in marketing and one of my biggest frustrations with sales people is when they "sell the roadmap." They get people excited about what the product can do in the future and not what it can currently do. So then when the roadmap changes, those customers are pissed because the reason they bought the product now won't happen on the timeline they were told.
    This applies to all of us as consumers, too. We can't trust companies to stop selling the roadmap. But we can choose not to buy the roadmap. Don't buy a video game because of what they say will come in the future. Wait until those things are actually live and then buy it.

  • NN&N
    NN&N 4 місяці тому +64

    Sir Swag is quickly becoming the AP/Reuters of gaming channels, the gold standard in resporting that other people are beginning to use as a reference for their own content. That's really cool to see, as someone who subbed to him years ago back when he was just doing fun Overwatch guides.

  • Paladin Foxx
    Paladin Foxx 4 місяці тому +34

    It ain't easy being the act man, I've seen this man time and time again lose his faith in the things he loves because they're in the hands of people who truly don't care.
    Firstly Halo, I grew up on Halo myself, it had a big place in my heart, I own toys, and collectibles and all that kinda stuff. So I know it hurt to see Halo infinite go down the toilet. I'm not an Overwatch guy, never have been, it's got nothing for me. But to see Act Man yet again hold his head in hands in frustration over seeing something he cares about get railed by corporate mismanagement still is sad to see. Although anyone could have seen this coming, Blizzard (to me personally) is one of the most greedy, evil companies there is. Boby Kotick is literally Satan and is driven only by his insatiable never ending greed. Plus Blizzard has had a spotty reputation for many years now, so I'm never surprised when they do something wicked.

    • Sorain1
      Sorain1 4 місяці тому +8

      It hasn't been Blizzard for a long time. Activision consumed them, and has worn the name as a mask since then. For more than 10 years now, Activision has done this.

    • BlackIronTarkus
      BlackIronTarkus 3 місяці тому +4

      Preach brother. At least we still have companies like FromSoft

  • Benjamin Carmine
    Benjamin Carmine Місяць тому +6

    Won’t lie, this is why I’ve turned all my attention to indie games. They’ve got all the heart, soul, passion and willpower to be something great

    • Romany Hosier
      Romany Hosier 19 днів тому

      There's a lot of shitty ones out there. But those are equally full of soul.

  • AR
    AR 4 місяці тому +2464

    When I’m in a “disappointing people” contest and my opponent is Blizzard:😰😰😰

    • [Soundwave Gaming]
      [Soundwave Gaming] 4 місяці тому +83

      You Haven't Met Me 😈

    • Quickman 26
      Quickman 26 4 місяці тому +62

      You'd be like the chess kid from 'Why do i hear boss music?'

    • Jacob Sotorios
      Jacob Sotorios 4 місяці тому +11

      I think you'd win that disappointment contest

    • Thonato
      Thonato 4 місяці тому +39

      arkane studios with redfail sitting in the corner:

    • Videre Vero
      Videre Vero 4 місяці тому +8

      With your parents, and a group of gamers acting as judges.

  • rick delga
    rick delga Місяць тому +10

    Came back after PvE was released and he was absolutely right about the person on the radio talking about how good we’re doing but what’s worse is that if you want the other missions you have to PAY. Classic Blizzard.

  • Coffy
    Coffy 4 місяці тому +31

    The lack of a story driven single player campaign was the only reason I never played Overwatch even once, despite really loving the universe and characters. The promise of one was the only thing that made me think about trying it out finally. Now I know never to bother with any product ever owned by Blizzard.

    • TryHard FinessedYou
      TryHard FinessedYou Місяць тому

      How do you love the story and characters but never played it???

    • Coffy
      Coffy Місяць тому +3

      @TryHard FinessedYou You needed an internet connection to send this message.

  • ADV Bassdrop
    ADV Bassdrop 3 місяці тому +8

    I remember a game that had both pve and pvp content alongside dynamic talents tress that changed your abilities in cool and fun ways each match its name was battleborn but the overwatch community killed it

  • GamesPsych117
    GamesPsych117 3 місяці тому +7

    9:36 "Did you just lose all your talent ?"
    As a matter of fact, they did. A huge proportion of the original team has left Blizzard since the recent controversies and another huge chunk was fired. You can basically say the only thing same between the original and new team is that they are both answerable to upper Blizzard management and unable to make healthy decisions for the game themselves.

  • BGNinja
    BGNinja 4 місяці тому +1054

    It's scary that companies can get away with stuff like this. It worries me for future games.

    • Shameful Display
      Shameful Display 4 місяці тому +177

      I dont even feel pity for the OW community. Come 6 months or so and they will still be playing OW2 and paying Blizzard.

    • Abylon
      Abylon 4 місяці тому +74

      people buy it and as long as they do the industry will get worse for the consumers

    • Pepe
      Pepe 4 місяці тому +86

      ​​@Shameful Display Not only playing, but spending money for stuff that was free months earlier

    • ZERO Shinkai
      ZERO Shinkai 4 місяці тому +17

      This is why I still play old stuff

    • Pepe
      Pepe 4 місяці тому +75

      Just play indie games, they're great

  • GreenTH-Mac
    GreenTH-Mac 3 місяці тому +8

    I never played Overwatch, but was excited to see the new PvE mode, the mode that was 'Suppose' to be what the sequel is actually all about, and what they even marketed the game around. Now to see it cancelled just like that and for no reason? I mean, how deep can Activision-Blizzard be this greedy and careless with their fans?

  • Larz1695
    Larz1695 2 місяці тому +8

    Considering the recent news over the past couple of days, this video aged like a very fine wine. The Act Man does it again. 👍

  • Eternal Crusader
    Eternal Crusader 4 місяці тому +30

    Once more, I find myself thankful to have turned my back on AAA studios, and turn to smaller and indie devs making niche games that are fun. No more frustrating unfinished/live service games for me.

    • Justin Govas
      Justin Govas 3 місяці тому +1

      Most are terrible. But not all are. Agreed with Indie games though.

    • normal person
      normal person 3 місяці тому +3

      Or get into different genres. AAA studios that make grand strategy games like paradox are bad, but not even close to AAA studios in mainstream genres like shooters

  • End3rW1z
    End3rW1z Місяць тому +17

    You called it. Pve was as you described: cinematics, radio talk, basic objective, done.
    Although charging $15 dollars in a bundle was uncalled for. Scummy higher ups and their desire to make all the money.

  • Ribbon
    Ribbon 29 днів тому +2

    Man, I remember when TF2 dropped Mann vs Machine 11 years ago.
    Just outta nowhere. No one was like "hey, we want a dedicated PvE gamemode", they just decided to do it.
    And it was great.
    Good times.

    • Welsh7133
      Welsh7133 23 дні тому

      The Team Fortress devs actually care(d) about their game

  • Caleb Brown
    Caleb Brown 4 місяці тому +2

    I think the crazy thing that no overwatch creators will talk about is just how bad the ranked system is too and how that's killing the PvP side astonishingly fast. New players are automatically throw into gold/plat and go on a 20 loss streak until they get down to the point where they can get carried sometimes and stay stagnant at a rank they still couldn't have gotten to on their own, old players below plat have to do the opposite and win 20 in a row to try to get a full rank ahead which is just impossible with how many players are deranking, smurfs, and trolls. Even the higher ranked games are screwed with players who have no right being up there, or getting games with plats, or players going 5-12 and getting thrown into GM. I personally deranked from plat 3 to silver 5 (got kicked from gold on a positive win card) after going 8-25 and it's been impossible to climb out with how bad the system is and my account being super old. I did a bunch of research the past week and it's been happening to people in troves. I even queued into a few masters and diamonds players last night when on a win streak and talked to them about it.

  • S S
    S S 3 місяці тому +3

    Boeing is a prime example of what chasing short term shareholder gains will do to a company in the long run. Blizzard/Activision is a close second

  • RNG - sus
    RNG - sus 4 місяці тому +8

    I feel bad especially for the devs that actually worked on this mode since 2019 (or even before). Most game developers can't release any of the work they do when they work in a studio due to NDAs, so essentially all of that work they did will never see the light of day. They can't even put anything in their resume or portfolio. Truly a despicable business move by Blizzard and I hope we can all agree to boycott their games.

  • Longus Dongus
    Longus Dongus 4 місяці тому +30

    I may be the only person that appreciates the AVGN clips, but goddamn, I do love it. Thank you Act Man.

  • Noob_Playz
    Noob_Playz 3 місяці тому +2

    I’ve never played over watch at all but the PVE mode was interesting to me and I was really impressed by the gameplay but once they cancelled it was just a shame that they decided to cancel it all for the PvP mode

  • xNico
    xNico 4 місяці тому +35

    Havent played Overwatch in years, same with my friends, but I have a feeling that the PvE mode would have 100% gotten us hooked back on the game again

    • Black_Ghost1
      Black_Ghost1 3 місяці тому +1

      me and my friend played overwatch for years but the feeling of the fun was just nickpicking until there was more bad things thangs then good, when we saw the pve mode we both redownloaded the game tryed it and we were both so bored everything was the same the days of hero counters were removed do to bad players crying for a vanilla sad toast point shot run around (for me it was the everyone a tank buster so playing taking felt unfair)

  • Ian K
    Ian K 4 місяці тому +1558

    You inadvertently hit on exactly why Blizzard can't make truly great games anymore: they lost all their talent. Genuinely enthusiastic and creative designers were smothered by middle managers and executives and left the company one by one. The people who made great games for Blizzard are either gone or so beaten down by committees and meetings they can't make the awesome stuff they once did.

    • VAFranky
      VAFranky 4 місяці тому +98

      They haven't made anything original in forever. People say "but overwatch is kind...of...newish?". Work on the core of that game (project Titan) started in 2007 ffs. Back when "Blizzard" was still actually Blizzard. Wow upon some additional research it appears even fairly newer characters like Echo were even designed back then. So they really have no new ideas lol.
      They no longer have people at this company with original ideas or any passion about games whatsoever. And I'm not talking about entry level employees who I'm sure joined Blizzard because of their love for gaming. People that have any control over these games whatsoever only care about $$$ and it shows in the laughable "quality" of their products.

    • Frank Coley
      Frank Coley 4 місяці тому +31

      They should of left and started their own company. Instead of hanging on to the name they built.
      All Blizzard is is a name. The Devs and original management MADE that company what it is.
      Once again, we're being fucking sold Repacked Nostalgia.
      I'm getting sick of this shit and it happens in everything now.

    • SomeCoolToad
      SomeCoolToad 4 місяці тому +22

      The best Blizzard game released recently was D2 Resurrected.
      It was not made by blizzard ( Vicarious Visions) and its a remake. Then i played D4, and While it's okay, and seems to better than D3, That's not saying a lot. To me the best talents at blizzard jumped ship, and all that its left is a bunch of veterns and mostly inexperienced people. Being led by a greedy corporation, Now i understand greed in a company, But activision takes it to a new level.

    • atleast6people
      atleast6people 4 місяці тому +1

      @Frank Coley you assume? How many meetings for blizzard have you sat in?

  • JaxnWaxnFlaxn
    JaxnWaxnFlaxn 3 місяці тому +4

    Yo man you probably won't see this but thank you for speaking out and sharing how you feel on this. To see someone with a platform as yours saying what needs to be said is great to see its like you're the voice for us gamers who are tired of the over monetization of video games. its been like this way too long and I for one am fed up with it and havent been buying any games or really playing for that matter. great work Act Man keep it up although I do hope gaming can get back to the good ole days

  • JayEmEl
    JayEmEl 4 місяці тому +1

    ACTMAN! Thanks for all your great videos, I especially liked the ones where you covered the decline of Blizzard as a company lol

  • Shiny Dondozo
    Shiny Dondozo 2 місяці тому +1

    The gaming community really needs to come together and agree to stop buying micro transaction and cosmetic items. Force the industry to actually focus on making fun games again.

  • Hexblack
    Hexblack 19 днів тому

    I think that the greedy board members and execs should be held accountable by gamers. They make decisions that not only disappointing for us, but also cripples the devs and pushes them to go against their creative instincts. The executive board that put out those disappointing games should be on tv and take the heat and we should be able to interact with them instead of them hiding in their mansions pretending that its not their faults.

  • Noah Webster
    Noah Webster 4 місяці тому +3

    5:27 is just sad. The developers are loving what they're doing, and they're being held back. It must be so demoralizing to know that you have a genuinely good product that you just aren't given the chance to let breathe.

  • Pix Tron
    Pix Tron 4 місяці тому +356

    Blizzard went from being run by sexual predators to financial predators

    • Attila 22
      Attila 22 4 місяці тому +85

      Why not both?

    • Akmal Ibrahim
      Akmal Ibrahim 4 місяці тому +57


    • shevrett
      shevrett 4 місяці тому +22

      Both is bad 😔

    • MegaMaster1021
      MegaMaster1021 4 місяці тому +4

      Really hate how money is the driving force than actual passion

    • SomeCoolToad
      SomeCoolToad 4 місяці тому +9

      They have been both for years, and there are still sexual predators, they are just being put on leash, They only fired those they had good proof against, but the rest, still there or jumped ship for different reasons.

  • Zane Chaires
    Zane Chaires 3 місяці тому +38

    The fact that destiny is a example of how success can be made with pve live service, even if destiny doesn’t always hit the mark when it comes to story

    • Aztum The Knight Of Wumbo
      Aztum The Knight Of Wumbo 3 місяці тому +10

      And Lightfall exists to point that out. Greed isn't called a sin for nothing.

    • Thermae
      Thermae  Місяць тому +3

      @Aztum The Knight Of Wumbo lightfall genuinely could have been good if they took one mission to elaborate on the veil though, but this august 2023 state of the game was shit lmao

  • Jacob Whelan
    Jacob Whelan 4 місяці тому +2

    The fact that this is trending is great. I hope they see this. I was actually going to come back to Overwatch nearly 4 years later for this only to have it scrapped. Guess I won’t be back then

  • Wyatt Z
    Wyatt Z 3 місяці тому +2

    I think what disappoints me the most is the fact that developers of modern games do what them to be fun but executives spoil it for money. Also the fact that a game makes 2 million a day but you cant spare some of it to make a game good.

  • Jimraf
    Jimraf 3 місяці тому +2

    man i loved lootboxes, i would use whatever little money i had when there was an event or just some random day and i would buy some, and then i would wear the the skins and whatever rewards i got from them with a smile and just play and chill and laugh with the bois, it made the game more interesting for me, i was also really lore invested so i loved all the comsetics, and now they got a battle pass which i hate, i honestly think that whenever a game adds a battle pass, its a clear message to everyone saying, (GIVE US MONEY), i think that it just sucks, its not fun, i downloaded overwatch 2 and linked my account cause i wanted to relive those beautiful memories again and now it just felt bad, its just not the same anymore, it honestly hurts to see something that i love so much go down the drain like that cause of corporate greed, its genuinely making me depressed.

  • Abundance Of Joy
    Abundance Of Joy 3 місяці тому +1

    Now from what I read about PvE mode is that it's still coming and that it's going to be huge and 10hrs long. The mode can be a stand alone game by itself on how big it is so, they canceled it to still work on the story because PvE story mode is OW1 and OW2 put together telling on how it began and what it became with each charter story line.

  • Kyle Fannon
    Kyle Fannon 4 місяці тому +299

    “Making video games is hard, so we gave up.” - Blizzard

    • Horatio
      Horatio 4 місяці тому +9

      Every game made is a miracle of hard work. Which is why I expect miracles and hard work.

  • Jeff Stapleton
    Jeff Stapleton 2 місяці тому +2

    I was so pumped to OW2 -- when PvE was scrapped I erased OW from my mind. I literally haven't thought about this game once until I found your channel

  • Niko Jr.
    Niko Jr. 4 місяці тому +3

    If they really wanted to release the PvE mode, I feel like they would have released it with the characters they had finished the talent trees for, and then said "other heroes will be available at a later date"
    Something tells me releasing that mode was never a priority for management

  • Ahmad Malaki
    Ahmad Malaki Місяць тому

    I never played overwatch in my whole life but if i did in it's hay day like 2016 to 2018 i would've loved the game
    You can see from the art style the story the animations the comics the trailers that the team put so much love into the game
    People still ask for a overwatch animated series
    I mean arcane proves that you can have a successful animated series based on a multiplayer game
    But the continued greedy tactics of Activision blizzard
    The endless controversies surrounding the work places
    And just being lazy about anything is enough to a big fan to leave the company and everything about them

  • Zion Mamba
    Zion Mamba 4 місяці тому +1

    Its crazy how time flies. I remember finding your channel when i was in the 10th grade. Now im going into my junior year of college. I used to read comments like this as a kid and would wonder when this would happen to me. Now i feel extremely old.

  • Hamish DeShaun
    Hamish DeShaun 4 місяці тому +5

    Genuine question: how is this not lawsuit worthy?

  • Lucax Corporations
    Lucax Corporations 4 місяці тому +515

    It is actually impressive how long Blizzard has managed to stay in a decline and not show signs of bankruptcy or being shut down. So many other companies crashed for being in a nosedive for shorter amounts of time. I guess that is just the kind of safety net you have from cultivating loyal fans and pandering to certain crowds.

    • fighter5583
      fighter5583 4 місяці тому +52

      More like Activision, which is propped up by CoD.

    • Some MorTal
      Some MorTal 4 місяці тому +60


    • Mr. S
      Mr. S 4 місяці тому +24

      Because they get results. As long as the money flows, this will continue.

    • Mike
      Mike 4 місяці тому +4

      I think if they were doing so well, they wouldnt be trying to sell to Microsoft.

    • Mono Dreé
      Mono Dreé 4 місяці тому +23

      It's the casuals that keep them a float, unlike us, they don't care enough to watch videos on topics like these, they just want the next new game or skin.
      Even youtubers that only think about views, start buying up 100K, and above, worth of packs, skins, dlc bundles and loot boxes.
      They have plenty of money to lose, so it's easier for them to fall in the trap, all while they lie to themselves saying that they are buying microtransactions so we don't have to.
      Nah, these specific youtubers are just suckers and casual gamers are just unfortunately clueless about the damage they are doing, which I don't fault them for, because at the end of the day games are not as important as other issues in their life.

  • Rem
    Rem 4 місяці тому +4

    I’m no financial expert, but this shift in Blizzard’s direction seems incredibly short-sighted.
    In order to squeeze out more money from their games today, they’re willing to completely tarnish their reputation and deplete their long-accumulated fan base.
    I can’t imagine the pay-off is going to be worth it in 10+ years. But who knows, maybe their plan is to just switch again when they hit that low point.
    I feel bad for any remaining Blizzard employee who is still passionate about making games. I hope they can manage to get out before Blizzard inevitably starts cutting people & projects again.

  • GillScape
    GillScape 21 день тому

    I think the core problem is productivity. Because they are employing 12,000 people which is enough to build a small to medium sized city a year yet seem to have serious productivity issues. Then they are struggling with margins and creativity in creative industries like gaming and art

  • alexandre huard
    alexandre huard 3 місяці тому +3

    In overwatch 1 when there was the story game mod event me, my dad and my brother spend so much time on them to finished them on the legendary difficulty and same goes with friends. I tried to come back for overwatch 2 but after like 2 months i left because it was the same game i played for years where i was able to get to master rank...... for 2 games then i drop back to diamond but hey was cool. Point is. Its the same game that i played for so long with barely anything new. I was waiting for that PVE so much because i knew i would come back for it and grinded the fuck out of it.

  • Bastian Cole
    Bastian Cole 3 місяці тому +2

    This ploy by blizzard has been the longest ive paid attention to overwatch at all. I never got sucked into the game thankfully. But as someone on the sidelines i've been seeing them in perfect clarity. When 2 launched and 1 went down just to force players in, it was obvious this was going to happen. Blizzard is no longer a game company, they are a microtransactions company designed to cheat the players.

  • Alexander Kant
    Alexander Kant 4 місяці тому

    Love the content! Can't wait for the next review!

  • TimeBucks
    TimeBucks 4 місяці тому +1122

    Great video, they deserve to be called out

  • centiret
    centiret 4 місяці тому

    Yeah, that's really sad, I didn't put any money into the game but I'm sorry for everyone who did, thinking pve will come around.
    I am looking forward to supporting smaller companies, the risk there for them to do corpo-greed-stuff is smaller.

  • Ethan Yang
    Ethan Yang 4 місяці тому

    Since you mentioned co-op shooters in the beginning of the latter half of the video, have you ever tried Helldivers? I've returned to playing it recently and figured I should shill for it since it's pretty fun.
    It's a top-down shooter where you play as a not!ODST and fight against three different alien factions with a key part of the gameplay being something called "stratagems" where the player characters can call down various things like weapons, vehicles, defensive emplacements, attack runs/ordnance, etc... And the progress of each player is synced-up to everybody else's, allowing the playerbase to essentially fight a war against the three enemy factions.
    It's a fairly old game released back in 2015 but still has a decent playerbase due to how well-liked it is, though the studio has very recently announced a sequel to it.

  • Luke Frederiks
    Luke Frederiks 4 місяці тому +7

    I still remember people telling me that Diablo Immortal "wasn't a big deal"
    They called me a madman.
    But I knew what this support for games like Immortal does. It invites disaster and greed.

  • Cameron
    Cameron 4 місяці тому +1

    Hey act man I know this is a couple days after the video initially came out, but since OverWatch 2 has said no more PVE mode, do you think this would be almost be a smart time to try and bring back like battleborn? For example, the thing that was originally competing with overwatch 1 which had multiple different heroes that could level up in different unique ways every match. Plus it had PVE PvP and essentially destiny 2's gambit before that actually came out as a hybrid PVE and PVP mode. I think it would be a good time to bring it back because it would scratch that hero shooter itch and then also still have the multiple modes that people want for competitiveness

  • Joshua Johnson
    Joshua Johnson 4 місяці тому +3

    Hit it on the head when he said OW2 was only about changing the monetization model and that the PVE was never actually a focus. Feel cheated honestly. I know it's really damn dumb to put hopes on Microsoft but if that merger ever goes through it's Blizzards last chance to get back to glory.

  • Schweppley
    Schweppley 4 місяці тому +422

    It’s crazy how hard it is for blizzard to do the bare minimum to keep their hype train and still manage to mess it up

    • the true Star
      the true Star 4 місяці тому +25

      The hype train crashed and burned as soon as it released its now back to pre ow2 seasons

    • Medinaxz
      Medinaxz 4 місяці тому +5

      @the true Star It exploded before it even left the station.

    • Thorben Eiklenborg
      Thorben Eiklenborg 4 місяці тому +2

      So what? they still make 2 millions a day with just one game apparently. They don't care, they don't have to care. What's worse than Activision Blizzard being Activision Blizzard are their loyal Fans, defending everything they do, because they like to get angry in a silly PvP game.

    • the true Star
      the true Star 4 місяці тому +8

      @Thorben Eiklenborg I don’t see many defending this ow situation

    • CareeseFangirlForever
      CareeseFangirlForever 4 місяці тому

      All they gotta do is dangle and the content creator shills do the work for them by getting the gaslighting ready. Constantly berate the company for shop prices while proceeding to hand them their wallets.

  • Nicholas O'Keefe
    Nicholas O'Keefe 3 місяці тому +1

    What they should do is transfer the talent system from PvE in to PvP and let people actually build a wild character for themselves, it is blizzard after all, just have a WoW dev that made new Talent System help them balance it for pvp in where points can go

  • Magets Alive
    Magets Alive 3 місяці тому

    "We really wanted to put the new game with all new content in front of players. Especially the new microtransactions. That was actually the most important part, the new microtransactions. We're very excited for all the money this new microtransaction store will bring in, and we hope the bonus gameplay mode will encourage additional purchases. At least, that's what my bosses have been saying!"

  • Ali Haider Rizvi
    Ali Haider Rizvi 4 місяці тому +1

    I think that if they approach overwatch lore games like riot has done with riot forge they would have been a lot more successful as blizzard has the talent and the experience for doing so.

    • NsReturn
      NsReturn 3 місяці тому +2

      instead league is somehow more blanced in the worst seaon in 10 years then ow2. welp yeah they have it but that cost money

  • Mazaroth
    Mazaroth 8 днів тому

    The phrase "blizzard was used to be known for" hits harder than i'd like to admit.

  • Collin Patten
    Collin Patten 4 місяці тому

    Well said on EVERY take. Like if someone’s gonna make a good PvE mode it’s gonna be blizzard. Like wtf!

  • Sam Reddig
    Sam Reddig 4 місяці тому +731

    Calling sir swag a "credible" news source is such an understatement.

    • Lone Liberation
      Lone Liberation 4 місяці тому +91

      Only thing he gets a bit sketchy on is politics, really. Everything else he's great for.

    • FiringallCylinders
      FiringallCylinders 4 місяці тому +13

      ​@Lone Liberation agreed

    • Sir Netflix
      Sir Netflix 4 місяці тому +172

      @Lone Liberation To be fair, politics is one of those things that you can never be totally unbiased for, but he does keep that stuff separate for those who aren't into it, which is fair. I like getting my politics myself so it works out.

    • Meowblivion
      Meowblivion 4 місяці тому +77

      @Lone Liberation it’s cause he’s Australian. “An outsider who cares very little for American political affairs”. And I have friends from down under who’d agree, they don’t even know who their prime minister is half the time because “Joe Bidden tripped over his shoelace, fell down the stairs and crapped his pants. And now the entire world from London to Timfucktoo has to know about his who is practically the president of the entire world’s incontinence!”

  • Joe Floyd
    Joe Floyd 3 місяці тому +1

    As an aside, one of the reasons that terrible monetization schemes, bad business' practices and live service elements hit almost specifically pvp games (or the single player games they have require an online component to function) Is specifically because it gives the company complete control. Nothing is set in stone because a mandatory patch can completely change the game for any reason. They could one day make it so that you need to have invested x amount of money to see new features or delete any assets you have gained. One of the reasons i have always said pvp games are destined to die is that the game you bought might not be the same game after a month or a single patch update. Those features that drove you to the game could just be deleted and there is no way to go back to them. Or the company just decides its not worth it to keep investing in a game and literally just stop supporting it and it is truly dead. This sort of thing we are looking at here with blizzard could easily happen to any game no matter how beloved. Any studio can be bought and any team derailed.

  • Ducky
    Ducky 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the video Boss Man. I really hope blizzard execs wake up and realize they're pulling a 343 : (

  • brasco18
    brasco18 2 місяці тому

    I can’t believe blizzard couldn’t have just delayed it, even if it was for a year and completed the pve content. They could’ve delayed the pvp for 6 months and released pve 6 months after that, I think that would’ve been reasonable and fans would’ve excepted it knowing they were getting a proper sequel

  • Jacob Faro
    Jacob Faro 4 місяці тому

    Hey act man, since this video no doubt put you in a cynical mood to make, I have a suggestion for something fun: there’s a new update to a huge mod for halo mcc on steam by inferno plus, and it has debatably as much content as the spv3 project. It’s quite impressive and hilarious to watch blind play throughs. The trailers on his channel are great too, but might spoil some of the surprise.
    I won’t spoil it all , but let me tell you this: it seriously changes the balance of combat in some truly interesting ways. Snipers are now available sooner and have more ammo, but let’s just say you really need to lead your shots. Shotguns have reduced mag size but many more projectiles per shot… and recoil. The plasma rifle got some insane buffs and a new skin that calls back to the og of the og shooters. The plasma pistol now has at least 3 variants, the human pistol even more. There’s many more, and when you pickup weapons, be sure to read the names. there’s like 20 new warthogs and adjustments to all original vehicles. Best of all, the grenades. New grenades. They can umm… really change the dynamics of a fight. I’ll leave it at that.
    Please like this so he sees.

  • Terry McGinnis
    Terry McGinnis 3 місяці тому +5

    The only way to make gaming companies like Blizzard stop doing crappy things like this to the fans, is to make sure you don't give them money or time. Deny them of that, and suddenly they'll stop and go back to trying to at least send out a product close to what they promised. Because right now people get promises, get hyped, get disappointed, complain, and then go right back to giving these companies money and time.

  • Eglaios de Minecraft
    Eglaios de Minecraft 4 місяці тому +709

    My theory is that Blizzard realized that PvE had an horrible work/profit ratio, since most of the game's transactions are driven by the need to show off in multiplayer

    • ElSeggs
      ElSeggs 4 місяці тому +98

      ​@Mike My brother in Christ, GTA was squeezing kids dry before Fortnite was even a concept

    • Eglaios de Minecraft
      Eglaios de Minecraft 4 місяці тому +21

      @Mike I don't doubt many adults are still not able to realize that if they give more money to the cashgrab, it'll just keep getting even scammier

    • GrandMassive
      GrandMassive 4 місяці тому +2

      Yeah but imagine all the people that would have gotten into multiplayer because they enjoyed the PVE content.

  • ptero93
    ptero93 3 місяці тому +3

    I've been seeing avgn referenced alot recently when talking about shitty games, its insane how much of a legacy he has when it comes to this stuff

  • Nick Fortin
    Nick Fortin 4 місяці тому

    The funniest thing about the entire situation to me is they honestly believed that a list of shitty pve promises would somehow negate the major promise they just broke...

  • Mastodon3954
    Mastodon3954 3 місяці тому +1

    I agree that they didn't have to make every character available on launch. Look at Street Fighter 6, that game is awesome and was very well-received by critics and fans alike, yet it's not like it released with a full roster. To me, their comment on making all characters available and fun to play came across a bit like a bold excuse. I'd be fine with 1 kickass mode, two or so maps, one support, one tank, three DPS heroes at launch, then slowly going from there.
    The problem is, I don't think companies the size of Activision Blizzard will let their developers do that, because the higher-ups are not thinking in terms of players having fun, but how much money that could make them as well as pleasing their shareholders.
    Games like Deep Rock Galactic and Risk of Rain on the other hand, they're smaller in scale and the devs are free to fool around and experiment with their games, and as a result those games are awesome.
    Even Sea of Thieves, which I know you rightly criticized at launch, while still not having a solid gameplay loop you can experience in short bursts, has so much content and a sizeable community that enjoys the game, it's a pity something the size of Halo and Overwatch can't follow suit when it comes to multiplayer.

  • Gran Turismo Fan
    Gran Turismo Fan 2 місяці тому +1

    I have to agree on the whole monetization part of modern gaming. That's why it's very common that first and party developers don't actually make good solid games anymore without it being egregious with the modern monetization scheme that's fornite esque that almost every developer roots only for the sake of profits.
    It kills it for me to play any game in modern era because of this whole unesscessary dynamic that screams no fun to the player even when you haven't spent enough for a game that retailed for $60 that is now $70. This needs to be rectified in the near future, it's bad enough as is that we as people with real busy lives are spending way too much money excessively on almost anything imagineable that aren't just exclusive to video games due to corporate greed and the people who buy into it.

  • Semantic Dragon
    Semantic Dragon 3 місяці тому +1

    My Prediction: they aren't going to see a big return on investment from OW2 after this big reveal, it only goes to 7+ because they don't have a plan for season 7 or 8, just a bunch of ideas they can pin, and they'll give up by Season 10 with regular updates.

  • Bopples
    Bopples 25 днів тому +2

    Didn't even need to hear your full intro and I gave a thumbs up. I quit OW 1 back during Season 3. I had been a beta player, and even bought the Origins Edition, and by Season 3 of OW 1 I could already see a big negative shift in their direction, and most of the original hype players were already leaving the game due to the changes that had come.
    I'm glad I stopped playing Blizzard games, and even WoW has not been what it used to be. I'd say since WOTLK, but I did have a little fun in Warlords of Draenor. I mostly enjoyed Garrosh, and I felt like he was done dirty by the end. #GarroshDidNothingWrong

  • Ryufrion
    Ryufrion 4 місяці тому +1

    My question is, Couldn't they milk the pve mode for as much money as possible by giving a very basic version of it where it is a handful of missions with no talent trees or anything at the beginning, and then do small updates every so often that would introduce talents and all that just to get people to return and spend more money on skins, battle passes and junk? I say the decision is based on greed, but it seems like more of low IQ type of greed with no foresight at all.

  • Kaos&Riot
    Kaos&Riot Місяць тому +1

    This is what you get when games are designed and developed with only shareholders in mind not the gamer
    They needed to ship earliest possible due to previous quarters performance

  • Brandon Sanchez
    Brandon Sanchez 3 місяці тому +1

    Gotta love how they say “ we can’t keep our promises, so here’s a whole new set of promises “ 14:35

  • Athenajayviel Jerios
    Athenajayviel Jerios Місяць тому +2

    The community was literally:
    *our expectations we're low, but holy $hit!*

  • JunkiiRamen
    JunkiiRamen 4 місяці тому +393

    I have a theory
    Blizzard was originally going to make Overwatch 2 a game you had to pay for, but they knew they were going to scrap the PvE content and because of that, people would’ve been able to sue Blizzard for false advertisement. They then decided to make the game Free to Play

    • Derek M
      Derek M 4 місяці тому +50

      I think you hit the nail on the head.

    • Joaquin Nievas
      Joaquin Nievas 4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, sounds about right

    • ShawnusGames
      ShawnusGames 4 місяці тому +1

      Controlled narraration profit.

    • Sir Netflix
      Sir Netflix 4 місяці тому +31

      I'm certain that was the case. If it's free, you can't claim you are owed certain content as you never paid for that content in the first place.

    DREAD ASSASSIN Місяць тому +1

    The most ironic thing about this is I would've happily spent $60 dollars for the full campaign of Overwatch 2 along with 20 of my friends. That's thousands of dollars not going to Blizzard and since they fully deleted Overwatch 1, we're not putting a single PENNY into Overwatch 2, we're not even installing it. They canceled the campaign for money reasons but they ended up pushing away potential sales and losing lots of money from the lack of sales 😂

  • Garrett Hughes
    Garrett Hughes 2 місяці тому +1

    I don't play overwatch but I was once a destiny player and its the same story there. Low-effort, asset-flipped live-service content makes more money than creative content with TLC. It's so upsetting that we live in a time were art, a medium solely meant to be an outlet for creativity and expression, has been infected with opportunistic slimeballs who seek to fill their coffers. Media today is like anti-art. it's simply a vehicle for cooperate greed and consumerism. It's so gross.

  • ThatRPGuy
    ThatRPGuy 2 місяці тому

    I feel like the "Give us something" attitude also played into the state of modern gaming, publishers are more worried about having anything in the hands of consumers, good or awful

  • Revl8n
    Revl8n Місяць тому +1

    I miss the days when game developers made actual games.

  • TriTomMaximum
    TriTomMaximum Місяць тому +1

    If Blizzard never apologized to the fans for wasting their time for announcing a mobile game, they're never to apologize for anything

  • Sombra Cheeks
    Sombra Cheeks 4 місяці тому +716

    It is amazing that it is acceptable to them to scrap the main promised content, and act like nothing happened. A new level of evil.

    • V Paul
      V Paul 4 місяці тому +21

      *a normal level of evil
      I guess you never worked at any corporations, kid

    • De Prest
      De Prest 4 місяці тому +9

      i mean they arent who really decides whats acceptable at the end of the day, its the people who are still playing Overwatch 2 right now, and even more so, its the people still giving it their money.

    • Astora
      Astora 4 місяці тому +7

      Well you can blame the big suits at blizzard

    • Connor Altier
      Connor Altier 4 місяці тому +48

      Even more amazing is how many people are defending them. Im convinced OW3 could have no heroes, cosmetics, or gameplay, cost 100$, and people would still insist it was cool and actually generous of Blizzard

    • Master Bait
      Master Bait 4 місяці тому +6

      Fortnite essentially did the same thing with their PvE mode. They scrapped it completely after the rise of ehhh you know, BR...

  • Mastodon3954
    Mastodon3954 3 місяці тому +1

    It's sad Overwatch had to fall so the sequel could rise. Overwatch 1 was such a good game. It was one of those rare PvP games that I felt I could still have fun without taking winning or losing too seriously. I unlocked so many cool cosmetics without ever spending money on the microtransactions, and now in Overwatch 2 I'm straight up a peasant if I don't buy the battle pass, which I don't, because I don't like paying money for something I won't get unless I commit to playing the game a lot within the time frame I'm given. Maybe I would have paid for the battle pass if this was Overwatch 1, as playing it was a reward in itself.
    Then it's so strange to see the game changing so much over time in the name of balance, because they want to force Overwatch to be a big name in eSports, even though that's likely never happening, and this is a game that would have benefitted from being more arcadey, just for fun, like Valve's games. If it was too get highly competitive, like Counter Strike, it would be because players wanted it as they were getting super into the match. The game used to be 6v6, now it's 5v5, then there were iconic abilities like McCree's flashbang, then they nerfed cc so heavily which made Mei's ultimate very annoying to endure, then open queue versus role queue even though some roles would take so much time, adding so many DPS heroes when the hero pool for support is so limited, making Doomfist a tank who barely deals damage with his fists now, the list goes on.
    The game even won the game-of-the-year award back in 2016, a game that now no longer exists.
    In my eyes, Overwatch 2 was never about making the game better, or adding PvE content to diversify the gameplay loop, it was always a sequel made in the name of updating their business model, which makes Overwatch 2 the most corporate sequel in gaming ever, in my eyes.
    Oh well, times they are a-changing.

  • SudoYETI
    SudoYETI Місяць тому +2

    It's not Overwatch 2 ... it's Overwatch too. Also it's crazy because Overwatch came from Titan and a over a decade ago I was working at Blizzard and got to see early footage of Titan... I left Blizzard long after I saw the writing on the wall and I should have left sooner but it's disgusting just how far they've fallen. I actually know the exact moment this all started to change drastically. I was a GM for WOW and previously we were told, and rightfully so, try to find a way to say yes to a player (within reason) and then we got a new Director of Customer Services. At that point more and more of the old guard were leaving. At first not a lot changed but then shortly after we had training on how to tell the player no. The idea was we didn't want their request clogging up the queue. Shortly after this we had a mass layoff despite making money hand over fist. I knew then that old Blizzard was dead and the accountants had taken over the company.

  • Marko Radokicik
    Marko Radokicik 4 місяці тому +3

    The fact that they made a system even MORE predatory than lootboxes is actually fucking insane to me. I know that a large chunk of the Acting Male's audience may not like Jim Stephanie Sterling but they're 100 percent correct when they say that microtransactions/lootboxes are ableist and prey on people with gambling addictions specifically

  • Tobez
    Tobez Місяць тому

    And the worst part about it is that people will play it and give Blizzard their money anyways. Which just perpetuates these kind of scummy practices

  • Rascal
    Rascal 2 місяці тому +2

    Us TF2 players SALUTE YOU! We are happy to have seal, And also, SAXTON HAAAAAAAALE. As such, Our condolences to your PVE mode.

  • Eva 01
    Eva 01 4 місяці тому +545

    Blizzard sure is the king of dissapointing its fans with misleading marketing! Definitely a studio worth making fun of!

    • Sgt Inferno
      Sgt Inferno 4 місяці тому +9

      Nah Bethesda beat them to the punch, ever heard of FO76? FO4? Elder Scrolls?
      Edit: Deathloop, Evil Within 2, Rage, Rage 2, et cetera.

    • Yuyang Luo
      Yuyang Luo 4 місяці тому

      I’m pretty confident that they will make more money this way, so it’s not a misleading marketing but a disappointment for old fans.

    • L16htW4rr10r
      L16htW4rr10r 4 місяці тому +12

      ​@Sgt InfernoYou can't be serious, right? Evil Within and Evil Within 2 was a great game

    • Eva 01
      Eva 01 4 місяці тому +12

      @Sgt Inferno Rage 1 was great and The Evil Within Games are masterpieces dude. Rage 2 and Deathloop were the only dissapointments you listed there

    • Sgt Inferno
      Sgt Inferno 4 місяці тому

      @L16htW4rr10r I never said EW1 was bad, I was implying that Bethesda ruins titles they purchase, and whatever original titles they produce are lackluster. Since you raised arms and defended the company, I’d assume you have stuck with the company, but if you can’t even see how much they’ve messed up, then whatever. Consumerism at its finest, Nintendo mentality headed.

  • Celia Ferreiros
    Celia Ferreiros 4 місяці тому

    Excelente juego. Las misiones de este video son mis favoritas. Me gustó!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Joshua Patrick
    Joshua Patrick 2 місяці тому +1

    the issue with games these days is that people ascribe value to game developers and publishers that are decades old and the reality is the talent that brought the titles of you teenage and young adulthood into existence probably aren't there anymore. In fact the company only has the name as any resemblance to that which produced the game you love from back in the day. It's obvious really but for some reason people don't make the connection

  • Kitch
    Kitch 4 місяці тому +2

    What irritates me is that they keep saying that with OW2 they added new heroes, new maps, new seasons... but it would have happened anyway without OW2 launching and probably with more regularity. They can't use that argument when it's not something new to OW2!

  • Roberto Sampietro
    Roberto Sampietro 4 місяці тому

    Un tema muy interesante tratado con solvencia y profesionalismo.