Doctor Reacts to John Oliver | Last Week Tonight: Bias in Medicine

  • Опубліковано 22 сер 2019
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  • tear drinker
    tear drinker 3 години тому

    Abdominal pain in women. I wonder what would cause that...
    There's a reason they don't prescribe opioid medication for ABDOMINAL pain in females. A lot of the time abdominal pain for females is related to reproductive organs and pregnancy. Duh!

  • kevin gross
    kevin gross 3 години тому

    I'm sorry this is just liberal bullshit ...percieved slights aren't actual slights....but we treat them as be all end all ...I cant finish watching this because its just stroking liberal ego's...stand up for your profession man dont pile on to appease the masses

  • TheAnimatedDragon
    TheAnimatedDragon 7 годин тому +1

    So this brings up another question or concern that's majorly overlooked, with transgender patients our anatomy is different, and our hormones are different, considering that there have been recorded cases of transgender people dying in the hospital because doctors don't know what to do. Dr.Mike I was wondering if you could touch on this subject with "ex-transgenders" approaching the white house, and many people claim we're "overexemplfying a mental illness" I was wondering what a medical professional would think about this. so two questions, what would be your opinion on transgender healthcare? and what would be your response on gender-affirming surgery on a patient under 16 years old?

  • TT O'Keefe
    TT O'Keefe 10 годин тому

    Doctor Mike, how can women’s symptoms be ‘atypical’? unless of course you are unaware of your own bias in treating men’s symptoms as ‘typical, and women as some kind of aberration. WTF? This whole segment reeks of smug, self-satisfied, ‘trust us we’re the experts’ bullshit. Typical!

    • YummyCarrot
      YummyCarrot 6 годин тому

      Just to clarify this TT O'Keefe: Typical and Atypical refers to constellation of symptoms that are more and less common respectively and has nothing to do with sex or race. To simplify it, typical = chest pain, atypical = stomach ache. The vast majority of women still present typically when they have a heart attack. Men can also present atypically i.e. theyre having a heart attack but they complain of stomach ache. However more women presents atypically than men. It has nothing to do with men being default or anything to do with gender/race and women still present typically in most situations. It's to do with how common something is. There are other uses of these said words in Medicine and differs depending on the condition you're talking about, but none of them are gendered at all.

  • JanCarol11
    JanCarol11 11 годин тому

    Maternal mortality rates. People cannot afford hospitals. Also - there has been a huge increase in antidepressant prescription rates, and there are no studies which show that antidepressants are safe in pregnancy. There are, however, studies which show that there is a correlation between antidepressants in pregnancy and autism (for example), and that it is a danger to the baby to take antidepressants. Of course, they are extremely hard to get off of, and if your pregnancy "just happened," you may not be able to get off of them in time. I thought it interesting that the first time period (99 to 02) and the second time period (10-13) - there was an exponential increase in antidepressant prescriptions. Just sayin'.

  • JanCarol11
    JanCarol11 11 годин тому

    The guidelines of pain contracts are humiliating and discriminatory by nature. The patient is contractually guilty until proven innocent, and you can't prove a negative. I don't know anyone who has chronic pain who is satisfied with their pain contracts. Look to be seeing increased suicides over this issue.

  • JanCarol11
    JanCarol11 12 годин тому

    Ref: poorer neighborhoods and poorer hospitals - this could be helped by a single payer medicare system. The for profit system will ***always*** give poorer care to those less able to pay. My best friend is a doctor - and when she was your age, we argued over "socialised medicine" - I said it was better, and she said she had this expensive school, and wanted the capability of profit without the government intervening in her wages or standard of care. However, as her career unfolded, insurance companies intervened in her standard of care. Her corporate bosses told her how much time she could spend with a patient, or how many or what kinds of tests that were "standard of care." She could not, under the profit system, provide the care she wanted to provide for her patients. She left and works as a type of government doctor (providing health care for State University students), totally disgusted with how the profit system of medical care was working.

  • houndoom
    houndoom 13 годин тому

    They are so aware of these stuff that a lot of it still happens? It seems to me just a white guy trying to justify all of the problems mentioned and saying that it needs to change in the future while people are dying now.

  • Stephanie Lloyd
    Stephanie Lloyd День тому

    Talk about the celery juice craze!!

  • High as duck
    High as duck День тому

    wow the racism and sexism in doctors is retarded over there in the states, ain't it.

  • JanCarol11
    JanCarol11 День тому

    Maya Dusenbery, "Doing Harm." There are implicit biases, ones that you don't think you hold - but you do. This is where the problems happen. The doctors don't think they are causing harm to women, but they do think that they might be a bit "emotional" about their problems, and this implicit bias means they take the complaint less seriously. This extends to people who drink, smoke, have "risky sex," or are fat. The doctor's implicit bias is that they are causing the problems that they complain about. This is more common than not. Hopefully the new crop of doctors coming up will see fewer biases in treatment, and we will learn and grow. But read "Doing Harm," it is essential reading for every doctor.

  • Cutieno
    Cutieno День тому

    I had my doctor send me to the ER with a BPM of around 170 the doctor came in the room the next day and said that I just had "white coat syndrome" referring to my heart rate goes up because I'm scared of doctors... he was a dickhead, he didn't even bother running any tests

  • Karl Popper
    Karl Popper День тому

    Misleading comedian shows. I will never take them seriously. The best of them are Patriot Act.

    • TT O'Keefe
      TT O'Keefe 10 годин тому

      Karl Popper ok. Well that is your thing. The doctor here just admitted that bias in medicine is supported by research. And BTW your last sentence makes no sense.

  • Becca A
    Becca A День тому +1

    Thank you for actually doing research and being open-minded to all causes of medical inequality. Just yelling “racism” and “sexism” at everything is useless.

  • Crazmuss
    Crazmuss 2 дні тому +1

    Women cab't feel pain.

  • Ian Borland
    Ian Borland 2 дні тому

    I think it is great that a Jester can provoke a response like this and it is also great that a Doctor responds like this. Let's hope something changes.

  • pamela nichols
    pamela nichols 2 дні тому

    When people of color go to neighborhood ERS they are more likely to spoken rudely. Some ER doctors in these areas are tired and their bias makes them assume you are drug seeking.

  • Skylar Adler
    Skylar Adler 2 дні тому

    I wish my doctor was like doctor Mike. Instead, my therapist or doctor dont respond to my emails for at least 2-3 weeks, I cant make an appointment for almost just as long, and my therapist refused to let me off of one medication because I hadn't seen him enough times. I told him the medication made me irritable and worse, and he said I haven't seen you in a couple weeks so I'm not changing your meds. I've been seeing him for almost a year. I haven't filled a new prescription for my mental issues because I feel uncomfortable seeing him in almost 7 months. I cant ever talk to him directly because I feel like he's judging me. I cant talk to him because it feels uncomfortable for me to sit in his office. I told him about hearing voices and often times seeing things that are t there and hes like oh dont worry about that. It's just stress and it's like I'm not even stressed. I bake cakes for a living. Why are you ignoring me and the things I say? Do I need to scream it at you for you to listen? I dont want to be ignorant and shouty but you're leaving me no option. It's either I sit unmedicated for years and slowly get worse or I see a man who makes me feel like I'm less than a human, and sorry to say sir, but no thanks. I'd rather stay at home in the comfort of my own home than be made to feel like I'm less than human

    • YummyCarrot
      YummyCarrot 2 дні тому

      @Skylar Adler You can change your physician anytime you want. Walk into any family physician's office, anywhere, anytime, and a new person will see you. Explain to your new doctor, if you like him/her, that you'd like to transfer to him/her because you didn't feel good with the old. It's really that simple.

    • Skylar Adler
      Skylar Adler 2 дні тому

      @YummyCarrot I want to change my physician, but he wont do what needs to be done for that to happen

    • YummyCarrot
      YummyCarrot 2 дні тому

      Taking patients off medication is difficult especially depending on the context of your diagnosis so I'm on the doctors side for this one. However, there is no way a doctor should be making you feel the way you are. You should never feel scared to talk to your doctor about any problem you have no matter what it is about. I'd change my physician and I hope you have a much better experience because that's no way for a doctor to treat a patient.

  • Ulquiorra Cifer
    Ulquiorra Cifer 2 дні тому

    I really enjoy watching your take on the matter, since medicine is your area of expertise, I find your analysis to be much more accurate. Thing is with John Oliver is that he frames certain subjects in a way that is somewhat misleading, he implies racism and sexism are the causes of these discrepancies, however correlation does not equal causation. Yes, racism and sexism are indeed factors, but not the only ones. Watching Dr. Mike and his method of framing is much better, and doesn’t determine the cause of these things.

  • Kittiri Siebert
    Kittiri Siebert 2 дні тому

    I told my dentist I wanted a tooth removed because I couldn't afford a root canal. No insurance... The doctor refused to do that, and said I was too young to have a tooth removed. I was 23.. He was an old, old white man. I told him I couldn't afford it, he didn't listen and said they couldn't do a root canal, but he was going to start it. I never was able to afford to see a dentist again before it shattered in my mouth. I refuse to see male doctors because they never listen to me.
    As for the mortality rate of women in childbirth... I don't know why you brought up the increase that may not have been an increase... John Oliver said that the rate of death in the US was the highest in the DEVELOPED WORLD, not that it increased recently... So the better stat just shows how much farther behind we have always been to other countries.

  • Kelp Juice
    Kelp Juice 3 дні тому

    no pee whoops? :(

  • Birdy Miller
    Birdy Miller 3 дні тому +1

    While you where trying "not to make excuses", you totally forgot the fact, that we use the medical knowledge we have now, based on studies which do not at all reflect both sexes. Of course it's discrimination.
    Female bodies aren't as well "tested" as male bodies. No one says, it's the doctors fault, but this system doesn't work for a big part of our population and everybody should acknowledge that.
    One example, I experienced myself: if you do not describe symptoms in a factual short summary manner, but with more explanation and emotion, male doctors tend to get impatient and stop listening. Me, as a nurse, I than always tried to give them a short summary, they could understand - that's pitiful.

    • YummyCarrot
      YummyCarrot 2 години тому

      @Birdy Miller that's fair

    • Birdy Miller
      Birdy Miller 3 години тому

      @YummyCarrot Keep your opinions, you act in a manner I don't want any "discussion" with you.

    • YummyCarrot
      YummyCarrot 6 годин тому

      @Birdy Miller Well if you're not talking about human trials, then things were tested with women in mind, so I still don't see your point. Some scientist said "pesky hormones" to refer to the female hormones on TV. Now that somehow suggests sexism across the entire scientific community. We conducted studies on Y chromosomes because men are more "aggressive". That paper was even published, and then later retracted by the scientific community. So scientist are actually sexist against males. This is why there is no place for anecdotes in scientific research. If you can link me any paper the "pesky hormones" guy was talking about I can go through it with you to explain why they conducted the paper on just males. I don't buy that the research paper was sexist simply because the guy that talked about it on TV used offensive terms or just because it was just carried out on Males. Show me the paper and then we can discuss if sexism played a role in the methodology.

    • Birdy Miller
      Birdy Miller 7 годин тому

      @YummyCarrot To clarify myself: I wrote "tested", because I couldn't find the right English word for what I wanted to say. And just because there where subconscious errors in the past, doesn't mean, that it isn't sexism today. Women's bodies are more complicated, just as you said. Pesky Hormones distort the results?! Do you really not see the sexism here?

    • YummyCarrot
      YummyCarrot 2 дні тому

      "Testing" on humans isn't a good thing just to clarify Birdy. Just because less things were tested on women doesn't make it bad. I would rather not be tested on with 1980s medical knowledge than be tested. And women's bodies are more complicated, and there are other ethical issues to consider, Vitamin A derivatives, ACE inhibitors, Thalidomide, NNRTIs etc. etc. It's so easy just to say it's sexism because it panders to your own biases. Breast cancer and Prostate cancer is the most common cancer for both sexes. Breast cancer gets so much more attention and more than double the funding. Yes. Because society doesn't care about women's health.

  • She La
    She La 3 дні тому +1

    I don't know how to feel about this video or John Oliver's Medical Bias show--and I just started watching your videos. For someone who used to collect tons of data (working in HC quality), there is a reason why some research are addressed behind closed doors and filtered when shared in public. A lot of hospital administration do address these things to make policies unless the hospital is in a situation where they can't, which you have mentioned already. However, claiming things from research without sharing the rest of the information without an expert weighing on things at a widely-watched public talk show feels almost misleading. Who among the million viewers would look up those research papers that were mentioned? Who has the time and willing to discuss these things? Oh, yes...Dr. Mike. Unfortunately, John Oliver doesn't mention follow-ups nor those research, right? Is the show supposed to be informative, entertaining or just calling for awareness?
    A lot of patients don't know what goes behind Hospital administration. Maybe it's good to share some insight on that, as well.

  • Lachlan Bailey
    Lachlan Bailey 3 дні тому

    Worked pretty damn hard to avoid confirming any bias...basically found any reason he could to excuse it.
    I appreciate a good debate but damn...the white male doctor reacts to a segment addressing female and race-based bias.... works very hard to try reason with it...
    Damn people...this 'doctor' also chooses to react to HOUSE and Scrubs

    • YummyCarrot
      YummyCarrot 2 дні тому

      Since Dr.Mike is so wrong about what he said in the video, and you're so correct. I think you missed a good chance to state an actual point on where he is wrong so we could all learn from it. Instead you just called him white and male. Unlucky no one learned anything, and none of the points made in Dr.Mike's video has been refuted. Very unfortunate.

  • Kneco
    Kneco 3 дні тому

    you keep bringing up "quality of hospitals", but what about the quality of education?? seeing how you attended a school that isn't even ranked among forbes' top 650 "quality" institutions in america... so does this mean that your perspective is of low quality? if there's high & low quality hospitals then there are certainly high & low quality schools right?
    the bottom line is this, the concept of high & low quality hospitals is just as bs as someone trying to discredit your medical degree arguing that your school is inadequate. bc you ALL are SUPPOSED to be taught the SAME exact information & abide by the SAME exact laws no matter what school, zip code, city, or any other bs defense you're proposing.

    • YummyCarrot
      YummyCarrot 2 дні тому

      I think that we are all taught the same things. But we aren't robots. Some people get 50% in their tests some get 90%. I'm sure it was the same in your class in whatever degree and at whatever level of education.

  • Natalie Pumpelly
    Natalie Pumpelly 3 дні тому

    Watch the ‘white males are better’ thing turn in to ‘colored women are better’

  • Marinannn Pratannn
    Marinannn Pratannn 4 дні тому

    Ur the best person ever

  • S T
    S T 4 дні тому

    Oh by far my favorite is how easy it is for men to be able to get the...ahem...wires cut, but if I go an ask my doctor about getting something done to my own personal reproductive organs; you’d think I was dooming the human race to extinction.

    • YummyCarrot
      YummyCarrot 3 дні тому

      Vasectomy is not even close in terms of risks and side effects compared to tubal ligation or salpingooophrectomy.

  • A Diamond
    A Diamond 4 дні тому

    What "hurts" is getting crap care due to bias.
    Also, your surprise at John Oliver being correct is -at best- silly. You are surprised they did their homework?
    As for "non-opiod medications" that is because these are over the counter like Ibuprofen, Tylenol or Aleve. Fine for minor short term aches, pains or fevers but useless when given for anything more serious than minor aches and pains or the occasional fever. Most people have these meds at home. There is no difference in access because there is no difference in the ability to walk across the street from the hospital to Walgreens and picking them up. This is the modern version of "Take two aspirin and call me in the morning."
    As for biological differences.. to hear a doctor use the word "races" is worrying. There are no "races" in any physical way.
    People may have individual differences but there is only one human race left on this planet, and we are all it.
    As for why do people in poorer clinics and hospitals have worse outcomes: because they aren't taken as seriously as they might in better facilities. My husband has memory issues, and got laughed at by a nurse while in the hospital. In a hospital that tends to better off people she would have been fired, maybe sued.
    Full stop.

    • YummyCarrot
      YummyCarrot 3 дні тому

      Prescribing ibuprofen IS the guideline for managing most pains though. And it's unlikely that Ibuprofen would be prescribed for chronic pain. There are so many other non opioid analgesics that is not aspirin or ibuprofen. Stronger NSAIDs are prescribed much more often and include those like naproxen and diclofenac. Calcium channel blocker analgesics and GABA modulators are used for chronic pain. And if you actually read the study, they talk about prescription of non opioid medication, so walking across to the pharmacy has absolutely nothing to do with it, because those who bought the medication on their own aren't included in the study...
      A doctor using the word "race" isn't worrying. There are many differences between races/ethnic groups and it vastly changes guidelines for medication. Black people are given Calcium channel blocker anti-hypertensives as opposed to ACE inhibitors for white male age under 55. Doesn't matter that he's using the word race. Doesn't matter what you colloquially call it. He's making a youtube video for people to understand, not writing a research paper.

  • woodworker Royer
    woodworker Royer 4 дні тому

    19:00 I had a biology teacher tell me that black people are less adapted to cold climates than white people. Their brains don't cycle the blood as many times as whites and they end up getting frostbite more quickly. That isn't racist, it's different. I think black people are great. But they ARE different in some ways than white people.

  • Carla Lopes
    Carla Lopes 4 дні тому +1

    Is the racial mortality gap closing because black people are living longer or because of the opioid crisis, white people are dying earlier? If it's the second, then it's not progress.

  • Happygetsfit
    Happygetsfit 4 дні тому +8

    I had find a female doctor jus to be heard. I mental health was so bad and the Dr. I was seeing was really bad. He told me that my period should be painful because they are a punishment for not being pregnant(I was 19 at the time) and that my depression was just because I wasn’t fulfilling gods duty. He also said that I was making up my knee pain because women don’t experience pain like that.
    I have a not only a waaaayyyyy better doctor now, but a female one.

  • Charles Catt
    Charles Catt 4 дні тому +1

    Why did i get a mcdonalds ad before this video...

  • Spidergirl79
    Spidergirl79 4 дні тому

    Sex is not assigned at birth, its OBSERVED.

  • Gail Craig
    Gail Craig 4 дні тому

    Love your vids, Dr. Mike! some decent fitting shirts! I get that you're nicely buff... but sleeves that cut into you because they're too tight & buttons that threaten to pop are quite distracting while watching, let alone in person at clinic/hospital. It's just gauche to brag/advertise your great physical condition by wearing clothes that are too tight...not professional.
    Keep up the great videos... Seriously appreciate your common sense approach to medicine!

  • alhanoof abdulrahman
    alhanoof abdulrahman 4 дні тому +1

    I couldn’t help my self, your couch looks really comfortable.

  • Katelyn Ball
    Katelyn Ball 4 дні тому +1

    It is even more of a struggle for women to get good healthcare when you go to doctors and tell them you have extreme pain and heavy bleeding and they don't believe you and throw ibuprofen at you to shut you up like that's gonna fix the issue. Or when they look at your record and see you've been in the hospital 3 times this month for excruciating pain and think you're just there for pain meds and ignore your complaints.

    • YummyCarrot
      YummyCarrot 4 дні тому

      @Katelyn Ball Sorry you had this experience really. I didn't know it took 14 years. I was just trying to explain it in simple terms the management of period cramps because I thought you would be interested to know, but it's definitely unacceptable that it took so long to find a diagnosis. However, the treatment for endometriosis is still NSAIDs analgesics first line followed by contraception. Many people have endometriosis and if the first and second line treatment adequately controls pain, then you just closely monitor for any changes and continue as it is.
      The fact that you were hospitalised three times for this makes it extremely unlikely that the doctors didn't take you seriously. They must have done pelvic imaging and blood tests. Depending on the size of the ectopic endometrial tissue, sometimes it is not possible to pick up on the imaging and the diagnosis has to come from history only which is difficult, and in cases where treatment doesn't change regardless of the diagnosis, it is often redundant to pursue that diagnosis as extra tests carry it's own risks. This is quaternary prevention, and it is really important when doctors treat patients because one of the pillars of practicing medicine is first do no harm.
      I do hope that there was a good resolution of your condition and that you're satisfied with your care under the current doctor. Very unfortunate you had so much trouble with this.

    • Katelyn Ball
      Katelyn Ball 4 дні тому

      @YummyCarrot I was mainly referencing the fact that it takes a woman with endometriosis close to 14 years to be taken seriously but k

    • YummyCarrot
      YummyCarrot 4 дні тому

      Sorry you feel mistreated. But the treatment for period pain is NSAIDs which includes things like Ibuprofen. A stronger pain killer is in no circumstance indicated for period pains. No good doctor will ever prescribe you other analgesics because it's against all guidelines.

      The reason Ibuprofen is prescribed is because Ibuprofen specifically targets the source of menstrual pain. So while it is used as an over the counter drug for pain and inflammation in general, it's actually a specialized and targeted therapy for menstrual pain.

      Menorrhagia and dysmenrrhoea (Heavy flow and painful period respectively) may be a symptom of some other condition, and should be investigated further. Perhaps your doctor already did this, but in more than 90% of the time, it is a normal variant to have comparatively heavy and painful periods, especially if you don't have other accompanying symptoms that points towards another diagnosis.

      The doctor is right in prescribing Ibuprofen because that is the drug in the first line treatment for your condition, and is the best analgesic for that condition shown in every meta analysis.
      If NSAIDs fail to control the pain, the doctor will or should give you the option of using contraceptives. This prevents ovulation better than ibuprofen, and lessens the production of the endometrial lining.
      The oral combined pill works well for most people, but the coil is becoming more and more popular as it is once off procedure and it lasts 5 years.

      If you feel that your concerns aren't being taken seriously, I suggest switching doctors. I hope things go well.

  • Natalia Antunes
    Natalia Antunes 5 днів тому +1

    The thing about maternal mortality though, while I understand this point of view, the way things are done in US are brutal. I’ve seen all kinds risk pregnancies being forced into natural deliveries, when the safest option would be a C-section. I’ve seen babies and mothers dying because of that, and I simply don’t understand why US loves forcing natural deliveries so much.

  • tomjanbart
    tomjanbart 5 днів тому

    So basically John Oliver is really terrible at reading the original documents. Quoting correlation like it is causation. And secondly the USA should really fix their health care. "Developed" country 🤣

  • Diana Hickman
    Diana Hickman 5 днів тому

    This is true about treating women differently than men. I went to the doctor for swelling in my hands and feet...after a ton of tests they said I had "inflammation" and they didn't know why... no treatments, nothing... Just "drink more water" and "maybe it will go away"... I can barely walk now because my ankles hurt so bad, but when I talk about it with the PA, I get "oh it's inflammation, just drink water." Somehow I think it's more than "just inflammation." I ended up giving up...

    • YummyCarrot
      YummyCarrot 4 дні тому

      Don't give up Diana. Sorry if you felt mistreated by doctors, and I'm not going to make a guess since I don't know your situation. But please also understand that medicine isn't easy. Doctors can get it wrong, and sometimes they just genuinely don't know what is going on. If it is indeed causing you that much pain, I suggest going to a specialist. There is also no way a doctor sent you away with just drink water if you have such terrible pain. they would do lab tests to look for a cause, because so many things can cause inflammation. Find a new Family doctor and tell them your worries. Hope you get it sorted out, best of luck.

  • ra1nb0wb00tay
    ra1nb0wb00tay 5 днів тому +1

    I hate that I am ALWAYS TOLD to bring a man with me because then i will be taken more seriously (i have chronic illnesses where i am undiagnosed right now and am being shuffled around from dr to dr)
    *also..I'm trans and that just throws a whole other wrench into things (no I'm not taking hormones or having surgery for anything to have changed or affected any of my symptoms)

  • Yuu Chang
    Yuu Chang 5 днів тому

    I love and trust John Oliver's videos, so watching this was really interesting! I think you really did your research well and made some good points!

  • Jj Smith
    Jj Smith 5 днів тому

    So what? I'm homeless so I can't get an opioid to treat my pain? That's some socioeconomic bias right there.

  • Christine Shell
    Christine Shell 5 днів тому

    My friend last year had a stroke and had to fight to get the police and EMT to check her for a stroke. They wanted to arrest her for suspected drug use after she called 911 shortly after backing out of her driveway and into her mailbox. She told them she thought she was having a stroke. They wasted precious time arguing that her slurred speech and other symptoms were drug related while she demanded they test her for a stroke.

  • Christine Shell
    Christine Shell 5 днів тому

    Read this article. Bias against women is life- threatening.

  • t temp
    t temp 5 днів тому +3

    I appreciate you doing the research and defending your profession, but some of the things you said just sounded like another white male going "well actually..."

  • Heleen Wolf
    Heleen Wolf 6 днів тому +37

    Just a moment of silence for all the woman with endomtrioses

  • Samantha Murphy-Keller
    Samantha Murphy-Keller 6 днів тому +2

    I just want to know why this was ever happening in the first place? 🤔 Like, if doctors are supposed to be so educated and unbiased - why did discrepancies like this EVER happen? 🤷🏽‍♀️ Shouldn’t they have been treating everyone perfectly equally?? I don’t know, I think when an absolutely unacceptable incident like the one with that woman who was experiencing unbearable pain and the moronic “doctor” wouldn’t take her seriously, he should be fired immediately. He doesn’t deserve to work in medicine.

  • Kira Brighton
    Kira Brighton 6 днів тому

    I'd love it if you could talk about the issues with a past (and sometimes present) lack of research in female predominant conditions like fibromyalgia!

  • Ischys Syrra
    Ischys Syrra 7 днів тому +6

    You say you wanna talk about why these biases exist within healthcare, but you do in a way excuse the racism and sexism by only concluding it's because of socioeconomic differences. These differences are merely a symptom of the racism and sexism ingrained in society.

  • Ischys Syrra
    Ischys Syrra 7 днів тому

    It's easy for a white male to say "remember, we're making progress" when the healthcare system and it's biased people has ruined so many lives. Mine included.

    Remember that.

  • Dr. Jeango
    Dr. Jeango 7 днів тому

    If research is not powered to have a balanced population ( meaning similar amounts of male and females), it is not a good enough research publication in general. That would be a weakness of at least a cancer drug study in the current era (unless we are talking obviously about prostate or penile cancer, or uterine, vulvar, cervix and ovarian cancer respectively in men or women). I am a cancer doctor and most of the current studies or for the past 2 decades, balancing the populations is paramount to get results that can be apply to more people in diseases that affect both genders, however the incidence of certain groups of diseases vary sometimes between male and female or even between races. Also, in certain diseases are simply hard to enroll patients, example, men can have breast cancer too but is about a 1% of the patients for obvious reasons and we have to extrapolate all the results from all the breast cancer studies to men because otherwise the studies could not be done or ever published. I agree with Dr. Mike that we are trained to not make recommendation or decide on what our patients get based on their race or gender, but based on their symptoms and objective data and the uniqueness of each patient. We are trained to treat without bias, and with respect and compassion. I believe that every doctor should do the same.

  • Sam Sileno
    Sam Sileno 7 днів тому

    I would argue that some of the highest rated, quality hospitals in the country are located in low income, urban centers with a high proportion of patients of color. Take a look at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore and Tulane in New Orleans as examples.

  • Julien Kurtis
    Julien Kurtis 7 днів тому +1

    No one should go into medicine to make money. A person should have a love of healing & humanity. That is my opinion

  • Lupinequeen13
    Lupinequeen13 7 днів тому +1

    I'd be curious to see how a country with universal health care like Canada compares. Because the government pays for everything (or almost everything), hospitals can treat patients without worrying as much about their income. I wonder if that changes things?

  • woo wooo
    woo wooo 8 днів тому

    When you say; because women are experiencing these atypical symptoms, that's the part that's attributing bias. - the moment we state that the symptoms of half the population are atypical you're already establishing with the way you think about this topic that women have unusual symptoms and that's why doctors don't register it often enough. Just thinking atypical vs typical for women is generating subconcious bias that affects how doctors look at patients and think about treatment. You're absolutely right that more awareness needs to be raised about the differences in how women and men present symptoms differently to close the gap. But subconcious bias, isn't about active discrimination its about missing how we think about things. And thinking about women's symptoms as atypical vs men's is the part of the bias' . This isn't an attack, but food for thought - the way we think about innocuous words like atypical as it relates to sex, when atypical is more often than not typical for 50% of your patients.

    • YummyCarrot
      YummyCarrot 4 дні тому

      Just to clarify this: Typical and Atypical refers to constellation of symptoms that are more and less common respectively and has nothing to do with sex or race. To simplify it, typical = chest pain, atypical = stomach ache. The vast majority of women still present typically when they have a heart attack. Men can also present atypically i.e. theyre having a heart attack but they complain of stomach ache. However more women presents atypically than men. It has nothing to do with men being default or anything to do with gender/race and women still present typically in most situations. It's to do with how common something is. There are other uses of these said words in Medicine and differs depending on the condition you're talking about, but none of them are gendered at all.

  • Alexander Schmoldt
    Alexander Schmoldt 8 днів тому

    so wait
    who are the not assigned male at birth, are women? if not assigned male at birth how should a doctor treat them, like a man? even with different genes organs hormones etc.
    this is was peak gender confusion looks like on john oliver part.

    and yes when he is talking aboout study design it has gotten better, but not only in the 20 years this has started mostly after wii and slowly the better studies have come, futhermore computer have made it possible to handle the massiv amount of data if you wanna control so much. so its not doctors have been shitty in the 80 but it was oft not possible to handle so many variants. good studies in the 80/90 had 1000 patients. average cancer studies today have 20.000 in multiple hospitals.

  • Alexander Schmoldt
    Alexander Schmoldt 8 днів тому +2

    18 female 3 male, this is good diversity? is it though? would it be good diversity with 3 females on 18 males? in a 50/50 society?

    • Alexander Schmoldt
      Alexander Schmoldt 7 днів тому

      @Butcher Pete XD 2+2=5
      Yeah, they have mostly lost the plot. They want to fumble equality of out come when we haven't figured out equality of chance yet. And they hope they can do in reverse.
      Don't know which country you are from. But alone in socioeconomic education and health. (which are the 3 biggest factors many are fucked an left behind)
      This lead to now where cause a black poor child is as fucked as a white poor child. And I don't really care if there are disproportionate more poc children. And even if there would be a systemic problem like the gender pay gap. Let's just for 1 second think it's real. If we just pay every women 20% more. Would it solve anything? Would it make anything fairer or better?
      Than the male nurse gets 20% less than the female nurse, but that nurses are under payed and some bankers quite overplayed wouldn't solve anything.

    • Butcher Pete
      Butcher Pete 8 днів тому

      I'm glad someone said it. The modern idea of "diversity" is wrapped in political double-think. Diversity means privledge against white men, it has nothing to do with actually making anything "diverse." 2+2=5

  • Christina Schmidt
    Christina Schmidt 8 днів тому +2

    This is a really long way of saying #notallmen 🙄

    • Christina Schmidt
      Christina Schmidt 4 дні тому

      YummyCarrot A black woman doctor is so much less likely to argue against the sexism and racism in the medical world. Show me a black woman doctor making these points and we’ll talk.

    • YummyCarrot
      YummyCarrot 4 дні тому

      Well technically not since there are also women doctors, infact in larger numbers. If someone transcribed what he said into paper and got a black woman to say it, would you believe it more, and would it have more weight?

    • coffeyaum
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  • Zexo Man
    Zexo Man 8 днів тому

    Learning about this now, i can't help but think what would these studies show if done in my homecountry Egypt.
    Would their be disparities between copts, nubians, arabs, amazigh? I bet there would.