Cole MacGrath vs Alex Mercer (Infamous VS Prototype) | DEATH BATTLE!

Mostly Alex.

Honestly if Cole were a comic book hero Alex would probably be one of his best villains. They thematically similar they both have potential ways to win a fight against one another and if we use good cole we have get an interesting philosophic contrast as well. Plus Alex’s powers give him a good excuse to come back repeatedly which is great for mainstay villain

​@Robrockstar96I'd read that.

Anti-Hero vs Anti-Villain

There always would be someone more powerful or more versatile.

@DoubleJ-jt1ty He is by the second game.

@DoubleJ-jt1ty Whether or not it's relateable doesn't change if its evil or not. Attempting a genocide can't ever really be considered much else than evil.

​@DoubleJ-jt1tySo you're a misanthrope?

I love the death battles that are simply Hero vs Villain. Especially when the hero comes out on top

Same bro I was rooting for Cole saw Alex’s stats and was like no way Cole can win. Let’s go!

Longtime Infamous fangirl personally and even I was thinking the same
Thought Alex's healing and arena control were gonna get him the win but I had never been so happy to have been wrong in a while with this show ♡

I thought these games were more of something 90s babies played but good to know the later generation was able to appreciate it.

@lordmonarch2995 well they weren't even games in the 90s. More like what Teens played in '09

@Tony CommissoI was rooting for Cole until I seen it was the good version

It is it’s basically Electro against Carnage if their on steroids

That’s a perfect way of phrasing it.

Wiz also brought back the “That’s right boomstick” line

OMG I just noticed the "Lets wnd this debate". I wonder why they didn't do this battle back then.

@Misteraskman I guess Technology wasn’t there to re-create it the way they did in this animation.

Is that a Dr who reference?

@Peterstoric Is it? I don't think so.

@WisdomCube3.0 it’s a hell of a coincidence then. The line, “You’re not a god, your just a parasite” is right out of an episode of Dr who

Is it a Venom reference?

@Sean it's a Doctor Who reference.

I mean what could they have with Second Son??
I agree though, Prototype was a cool series and I enjoyed playing it through somewhat,

At the very least - Use the idea behind Prototype to make a Venom game.

​@NARUTO 2.0I did like second son so I would like a sequel to it lol

​@Shadowgear Same here.

I just beat infamous 2 again recently with the evil ending, plus having the reaper skin on Cole, it made that line hit with a much darker meaning

​@Logan Shawleyhow do you change skins on infamous 2, I remember it as a kid but I totally forgot how to do it

Same. 👌

Alex should’ve won. They BS logiced their way into Cole winning.

@French Fried Bagel Kinda true. The way possibilities Alex have , Cole dont have that much. Alex could gain new stuff from infamous world street enemies after consuming 💪. Alex is an evolve type the more unique species and entities he consume the more he will gain new powers , abilities, skills and mind .

@Sao TheAXU literally the second Alex stabbed Cole it should’ve been over.
I was expecting that final shot to be Cole collapsing in pain as the Blacklighr virus overtook him and transformed him into Alex.
Because Alex literally only needs to infect 1 of Coles cells in order to win.

@French Fried Bagel Indeed and they didn't let Alex use his full potential. Like where is the minions. Also some abilities he didn't used.

Imagine waking up from the dead just to be faced with the plague in human form

Jesus will do that he’s done it already and will again eventually

@A guy No superstition please.

@Scorpion Firesome this real life my boi

​@aguy9430 This is a comment on a video about video game characters fighting.
Please share your beliefs somewhere else thanks😊

Nah, better the guy from Prototype 2. Better and nicer Protagonist and same powers.

That's a pretty good idea.

@Mordi ́s Gaming Gedöns You're the first person I've ever seen give preference to Heller over Mercer.

@David Johnson probably because the first Prototype is banned here in Germany because of dumb reasons and the second was not, but only heavily censored (and so poorly, that the first Loading screen became infinite, so you had to get an Uncensored patch).
Means, I knew heller before Mercer(as the "good" guy) and maybe thats why I like him more.

​@Mordi ́s Gaming GedönsEven in the first game, Mercer is an antihero at best. He's not meant to be a likeable guy, which slides into him being a villain in Prototype 2.
Some of the lore being locked behind comics definitely blows though.

To be fair, they let Raiden eat cyborg cores to heal when he fought Wolverine. But in the situation given, where the two are mostly throwing each other over and through buildings without spending much time in any given place, it doesn't matter how many people are down in the streets

Not true, one of the upgrades in P2 allows Heller to regen his health up to 100% without need to consume, and I'm pretty sure the health regen upgrades in P1 allow Mercer to do the same, or at least, are supposed to but are improperly coded.

A bird lets him survive a nuke.
Enough ants or cockroaches could bring him back.

@Tzer and a bit of an electric charge lets cole heal from the beast, basically armageddon on legs that destroyed an entire city in an explosion far larger.

@364dragonrider infinite fight. Unless long game in which caser mercer has advantage due to him potentially being able to absorb conduits. And know how their powers work straight away due to memory absorbption.

Well, neither characters really have a continuation to their stories, but there IS reason to believe Alex let himself be consumed.

This is cap it is common knowledge that prototype writers for the second game drop the ball on Alex Murphy's character just to get a cash grab for a black guy as the main character they bitched Alex out in this match Alex can summon hordes of zombie infected giant kiju why he chose not to me even though he chose to use them on James Heller is ridiculous cuz if they were in a death battle I would use the last fight with James where Alex Mercer through everything I was the super intelligent virus and had already absorbed countless other intelligent people I would have worn down this individual with the growing army of my infected avenue and then when his defenses were at his lowest send one or two of my evolve generals to try and absorbed him then if that successful worked absorbed his power from them or if that failed keep sending down zombie and then go in my self 😭 it's like you writers don't know how to consciously use this character powers if you were to say that col could absorb bio electric energy from his hords of zombie I would go to say when u killed any character in game you could not absorb them but when there alive or on the verge of death hoe about in stead of picking a script out the trash we scale these characters right 👍👍👍😅

@reject family productionsyou lost me at "cash grab for a black guy" it is NOT that deep 💀

​@Masqueradeyeah same

​@Masquerade cry about it.

I WAS LITERALLY SCREAMING ROOTING FOR COLE. YOU DONT KNOW HOW LONG IVE WANTED A DEATH BATTLE WITH COLE IN IT

For real man!

Yep same here!

It would also be cool if Delsin was featured on Death Battle. Question is, who should he fight?

@Derek Quigley Probably Heller, Prototype 2 protag

Especially with Ghost of Tsushima bringing SuckerPunch back to its former glory. I would kill for another entry or heck, I’d be happy with just a remaster of the first game

Delsin would definitely piss Heller off

Lets do delsin versus heller now, blacklight virus boys down 1 but not out

So do I!

When gamers werent satisfied with just waiting for the update 🙄

Well, unfortunately, consumers need to learn to stop shoveling money into it. Otherwise, companies like EA will keep on doing it.
They are literally getting rewarded for doing something that we hate.

I’m confused by your comment? These are both single player games, do of course they have no micro transactions. There is still single player games like that today such as god of war or Spider-Man you can play start to finish no micro transactions needed. I think you’ve just been playing the wrong games bruh

@BombCastor Playsit's just another generic "good ol day" comment

15:54 *(YYYEEEAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)*

Technically it's the official story. They made a part 3 that confirms that's the path he took.

It's not correct though, DB got so many details wrong and even gave him evil abilities such as arc lightning when they said they were only using good Cole.
Don't believe them for even a second

@Xx prototype xX Lol just say you’re coping hard 😂

@Skeety yeah, cuz I'm coping over a fake video created by incompetent people proven to be wrong over and over right?
Your talking like a child. Treating conversations like they are competitions.

Same

Yeah, i honestly want that jacket he wears in real life

​@DuffyDevilSaaaame

Facts

Emo vs Grunge be like

There are some TRULY sick cosplays of Mercer and Heller out there. As in, at a convention they would get high-fives and picture requests, outside they would get screams and police called.

Expect it couldn't, since he no longer has that ability, needing to replace it with an ice version that doesn't convert anything into energy at all.

⁠​⁠@Xx prototype xX Which doesn’t matter because he’s still powerful enough to do it and nothing suggests he doesn’t know how to do it as he literally relearned his powers and more.

@skeety7883 no he isn't, if he was then he wouldn't have had to replace it with an ice version to begin with.
He lost many of his powers after the first fight with the beast, powers such as karmic overload, grind drain and gigawatt blades never came back.

@Xx prototype xX 🤦‍♂️ He literally relearned all of his powers, it’s not that hard to understand.
I guess Alex just doesn’t get a vast majority of his abilities then since he never uses them in the second game and Heller never gets any of them after absorbing Alex 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️.

@Skeety Cole did not relearn all of his powers, he permanently lost grind draining, gigawatt blades and karmic overload. And had to replace some with ice variants to get it back. Your being disingenuous.

Or to imagine the evil Cole version:
"Thought after the First Sons, after Bertrand, after the Beast, that I'd seen the worst Conduits this world had to offer. But this Mercer guy was on a whole other level. How many freaks as powerful as him are still kicking around?
Doesn't matter. Whatever hole they're spawning from, I'll teach them to stay there. This world is mine."

I love your version alot my guy@kawadec

He shouldn't have, the results here are wrong.

@Xx prototype xX Having played both, you're wrong. Though DB DID get a few things wrong, ultimately Cole is more versatile, faster, and stronger. And unlike Mercer, Cole DOES have an instant kill on contact through just absorbing all the electricity in his body. He doesn't have to use it on humans either, so Mercer's potentially nonhuman biomass doesn't change anything. Note that Mercer uses his own biomass to attack people. So he CONSTANTLY touches people when he attacks them. Mercer could stab Cole and Cole could just instakill him through the blade.
Cole is also literally a living taser. He can't use guns or ride in cars because the electricity that constantly courses through his body makes them explode just from being in contact with him. Even without instakilling Mercer, Mercer would get severe electrical burns whenever he touches Cole.
It's also notable that Cole can redirect electricity that isn't part of his body or in contact with him, like when he drained a storm in Infamous 2.
Electromagnetism Manipulation is just crazy OP. EM is 1 of 4 fundamental forces of the universe, and 2 of those forces are explicitly atomic level and the other is Gravity. Being able to control it is a huge deal.

I think that's the idea.

And it's all the better for it!

Is 2009 close enough?
Though development for both games probably started around 2005

​​@Toob_NoobWell, 2009 is still the 2000s

@Sharavy sorry thought you said early 2000's. It says edgy. My bad

You never regained your powers

@Bomdasd umm, yes he did, lol

@Xx prototype xX no he didn’t if you mean at the beginning that was in the future and then they went to to past up till that point

I honestly thought it was Ionic Drain from (i wanna say) the second game, where its an ultimate, though maybe not since he had ice powers, so he was good karma

​@Saragen Ren the power you choose isn't tied to begin good or evil, it helps in those areas, but you can be evil with ice powers and vice versa.

​@Trankia12I remember you could only be a certain amount of evil before you cant use ice though. Like max either locks the other route. Because I had an all fire set but when I beat the game it locked me out of fire because I went pure good. And beating either game caps out your karma. Also Nightmare grenade is op.

@Yurei OtakuGhost I think you were playing a different game than me, infamous 1&2 didn't have fire powers.

I don't recall fire powers...but if you beat the game twice (good once, evil once) you will actually unlock the use of all powers. Cole is simply OP.

Cool thought, but Alex Mercer vs Carnage is better.

@Qualman701 yes great idea!

Indeed it was, narratively too!

It suits Cole perfectly tbh. Badass line and superhero.

It genuinely feels like it's something Cole would say, as well. It's very in character.

The proper response to any politician

@Kin my favorite is “the only vermin I see here is you”

good puns

Why hello fellow pun enthusiast 😁

Okay that was actually not too bad

Honestly? Those lines were actually pretty good.

Truly two of the protagonists of all time.

Which could imply James heller failed to stop Alex leading to a black light virus infested apocalyptic earth where Kessler leads a resistance to try and fail to stop Alex leaving Kessler who having no clue as to Alex’s origins resorted to the next best thing and that is using his conduit powers to go back in time and both strengthening his younger self cole and warning him of the beast that would bring the end of world known as alex mercer

Indeed, and since Infamous had a whole plotpoint with time travel, Cole getting brought back is actually quite feasible. Heck, even just plain resurrected. With the sheer variety of powers, anything is possible... just like in comic books.

@Volmaaral Dovahkiin At the end of the good ending of Infamous 2, cole's body is being hauled off at sea when it's struck by a single lightning bolt from the sky. Maybe it brought him back?

Sadly, his best opponent was wasted on Storm two seasons ago. Granted, combatants have returned before with only three seasons between appearances, so it may still happen next year or after.

Same

I'm glad you think so.

WE waited 9 years for this Deathbattle

Wake me up when they do Warhammer 40k one day :P

Me too

💀 really

They do 5 or 6 a season what.

God that mission was so sick. Hearing that one iceman calling out “he’s drawing energy from the storm!” and then them bringing everything they have in to desperately stop you was so cool. It really felt like you were top dog among the conduits bringing down a reckoning. Damn I miss Cole : (

@Jonathan Joestar with Pluck Yes!! That’s was one of the best parts of it. Out of all 3 games that one mission is my favorite of all time. Same here man. I liked Cole a bit more than Delsin. It would be nice if we got another game featuring Cole but we can only hope.

@jayb234
Yeah but sadly they followed the player's first choices for making sequels and people chose Hero rather than Infamous

I always did both the hero and infamous playthroughs in infamous

@Andrew Ridings same here. I always played good first and then wreaked havoc after on another save.

fytb cuh

More likely that mercer let heller absorb him for law of survival

Yea it seem Mercer was teaching heller more than kill him, when you attack Mercer with the same weapon he’ll spout out dialogue such as “change it up for god sake” or “I’m using that ”

Ok,
1. Heller had superior power, mercer merely held back.
2. It don't make sense why Cole won, they got so many facts wrong such as putting Cole's electric shield on par with a nuclear reactor when the shield they were talking about was ice based.
They're incompetent, you shouldn't believe them.

I had a buddy who had something of a theory (or maybe it was really more like cope cuz he hated Heller and liked Mercer a helluva lot more) for Protoype 2's and the comic's Alex, it was something to the effect of Mercer having too much biomass after cleaning up the remnants of the infection and Blackwatch so he split himself up into eight different Alex Mercers and set them to wander the world and the one who set the virus loose again was just one of those bodies gone rogue. I liked the idea cuz I too preferred Alex over James and didn't much care for P2's story or gameplay and it made a bit of sense, eventually he'd run out of room to store all the excess, so what better way than to divide like a cell.

@David Johnson Interesting premise, though it does raise the question as to why none of the other Mercers intervened when P2-Mercer went rouge. I don't particularly like the explanation being that P2-Mercer just ate them off screen.
To expand on my idea a bit more, my idea for a PROTOTYPE 3 was Blackwatch recovered pieces of Mercer they found after PROTOTYPE 1's ending and kept them in suspended animation for study. James and Dana (Alex's sister), after finding out Mercer was still out there, went on a mission to destroy them. The operation goes wrong as Dana is trying to destroy a Mercer piece while James deals with the enemies outside. Mercer breaks out and eats everyone, including almost Dana, but stops when he recognizes her DNA as his beloved sister, Mercer's memories only going up to the events of the end of PROTOTYPE 1. To save her life after nearly eating her Mercer infects her with the virus and makes her into the 3rd playable character for PROTOTYPE 3.
And with that you have a game that has the best of all worlds, Alex Mercer as a returning playable character from before he was villainized in game 2, James Heller as a returning playable character bringing his unique game play quirks and story dynamic of working with an Alex before their fall while still having ALL THE MEMORIES of all the evils P2-Mercer did, and Dana Mercer as a new playable character for new game play quirks to be tried out on for the 3rd game along with being the plot glue that holds the characters together by wanting to believe in the good of her "brother" that sacrificed himself to protect others from the bomb.

It's a crazy one now too though!

Tbh kinda glad it didnt come out back then, because the fight wouldn’t have been as beautiful

@IBK Akindele True It would have been all 2d sprite animation, not against it of course, but a full 3d with debries and destruction? yes please!

@Juan Maidanatheir sprite fights have definitely improved however, just look at Rogue vs Wonder Woman compared to Goku Black vs Reverse Flash (my personal favorite DB)

microsoft just got activision, so people are talking about prototype again.

you saw Cole do WHAT

As a great man once said, "Shut up and take my money "!

now that wold be a real winner. Prototype with AAA graphics and smoother gameplay would be insane. Especially in this age of oversaturated goodguy superhero games

Infamous and Prototype remakes, released as a bundle, with a team-up sequel.

been hoping since the ps4

Throw the darkness onto that pile another gem from that era that deserves another game

I still want a legitimate inFamous 3. Second son was a letdown

True

This comment needs to be higher up

Peak fiction

✍️ 🔥 🔥 🔥

Then he said "It's Coleing time" and that was just so hype

Ok I just watched it twice and I didn't hear anything resembling that

Bars

Better late than never.

Also back in 2013, they weren't all that great at researching like they are now. Some people would disagree that they are good now, but they do actual math while in the past they just went "eh, they could probably do this and win" most of the time.

And yet they still didn't bother using the Sonic booms, or when Alex Mercer does his speed that exceeds the tank rounds, which are projectiles moving at supersonic speeds, and death battle gave no Feats whatsoever to Cole in terms of speed. And they didn't bother making a tornado, as Alex Mercer runs circles around his opponent who is unable to perceive him. But that just takes all the fun out of the battle doesn't it
Eddit: Cole didn't get a Speed-Feat, but that was for routing electricity hisun and routing electricity is not the same as moving from point A to point B in reaction to a weapon firing at you.

@kjf 365 Nowadays, the question fans ask isn't "Should this character have won?" and more "How faithfully would they portray the characters?"

I dont remember anyone from the Infamous fandom agreeing that Alex would win all we agreed to was that it would be an awesome fight

yeah superhero virus what a great plot point 😂.

Also true. This fight was bound to end badly for Mercer

@WeaponXSigma Think it would have been different if we saw mercer abusing his ability consume normal people to regenerate though. That was a really big thing to take into account for the fighting was him eating enemies as the battle went on. If Mercer had kept running off to regenerate and charge by eating humans in the area I think he'd have stood a better chance all things considered. It's hard to think about who would win in this fight since it would come down to who ran out of energy sources first.
Mercer is no fool either. If he saw cole charging off the power grid he'd pull back and just start breaking the grid left, right, and center. TL:DR I feel like due to the intelligence of both sides and their separate regeneration capabilities a change in arena and resources would greatly shift how this fight would go. This type of fight would potentially go on for WEEKS if not months.

It doesn't need to in order to absorb him.

Alex's virus is like trying to infect a fire to become poisonous. As long as Cole's abilities were still active, it'll burn off anything Mercer threw at him.